whats so special about the 2007 guns , i have one and it has none of the issues common to these rifles , is that typical for that year ?
Price estimate for Norinco M14.
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whats so special about the 2007 guns , i have one and it has none of the issues common to these rifles , is that typical for that year ?
Lol. Nothing in reality.
All norinco receivers before 2016 or so were made between 1988 to 1994. Norinco picked them randomly to assemble it seems.
Some people claim the earlier guns have more consistent receivers, but that is not my experience.
I will say that quality of assembly was better before 2010, but if you are going to strip it for a build, that is not a factor.
The only thing worth having off them is the receiver as far as I’m concerned. Wouldn’t trust any of their bolts at this point. At 450 maybe it makes sense. At 600 I’d look at other options.
Just so I'm clear on this??
Metal was added to the bolt lug then hand lapped off to bring the bolt into proper headspace?
Was the origanal headspace way out of wack ? Or were you looking at getting more then 50% contact?
Metal was added to the bolt lug then hand lapped off to bring the bolt into proper headspace?
Was the origanal headspace way out of wack ? Or were you looking at getting more then 50% contact?
I can't speak for the OP, but I will say I have NEVER gauged a stock norinco M305 that was within SAAMI spec. They all seem to be headspaced abould halfway between SAMMI GO and Field/Reject. Some are even over Field/Reject, sadly.
If someone wants an accurate shooter, changing the bolt to get within SAAMI range is a typical accuracy mod. I would imagine this is why the OP had the work done, because he was chasing smaller groups or correcting long headspace.
Do you mean as a complete firearm, or do you mean the receiver? The receivers are all from the same production run - all of them - right up until they started using cast receivers in 2016.
The only receiver differences of any proven validity:
1) guns were marked differently above the woodline depending on what assembly batch they were used in, though the below-receiver production markings are all from the same production run, 1988-1994.
2) some 1988 dated receivers are gap rail, prior to SEI working with Norinco to change the rail to the SAI M1A design.
Believe whatever you like. I will agree that over time the quality of the parts installed on the receivers has gone down, castings got rougher on the small parts, flash hiders got rougher, rear sight assemblies got more deplorable than they already were, and consistency of FCGs went downhill. If you want to run a stock chinese rifle (and I can't imaging why anyone would), then yes, get a 2010 or earlier rifle. If you are going to change all the parts that I would change on ANY M305, even made pre-2005 when they were the most well put together (which isn't saying much), then any forged M305 receiver is as likely to be in spec as any other.
Lol omg! Pow made my day
1200 for a used norinco?
Might as well get a used Springfield for a couple hundred over that price, come on!
lol - not everyone is as narrow-minded. If all that's left is a great forged receiver with GI parts, it's worth well more than $1200 and likely is a better rifle than any recently made SAI. Hard to say anything without seeing what he had built.
I don’t think there’s much of a market for Norcs priced above $1K regardless of the aftermarket parts/work. Above a certain price point, most people have no interest in them in my view. Not saying you couldn’t sell one at that price but you won’t sell many, and it could take some time to find a buyer. A mixed breed can be a great dog, but it’s not going to win any prizes at Westminster.
Thank you for that explanation. Chasing accuracy is the exact reason for the mod to the bolt. I wanted to wring out as much accuracy as possible. The headspace was not terrible, but it wasn't what it should be. Now it is within SAAMI specs. The reasonoing for adding material to the oprod tab is the same. Before it was sloppy in the channel. Not falling out sloppy, like some, but not what it should be. Now it's smooth and tight. I don't know how much that mod changes it's potential for accuracy. I certainly feels much better, though.
I'm not at all combative. I just don't like when people jump to conclusions, before they know the facts. As I am sure you would be, if someone told you something was worthless without knowing the facts.
i beg to differ just based on my own experience selling off my collection of rifles I built on norinco receivers with upgraded components and correct build procedures. Most rifles sell within hours of listing , some have sat for a couple or so days..... maybe one bump ..... but they all sell. I know it's not fair to compare rifles off my bench to average guy building up a rifle but still, if built properly with quality components, these rifles hold thier value as much as any improved rig.
I hear rumour that one of the higher end norinco based builds I did up a few years ago might be coming up for sale by it's current owner...... keep an eye out for that one hehehe
I agree. For example, I somewhat doubt any of the M14 Medic GI builds on gauged Norinco receivers will ever sell under $1000. Think $2000+ without optics. But whatever. The world is full of people who won't ever buy a BMW when a chevy cobalt will get them from A to B.
