Price estimate for Norinco M14.

don't sweat it man..... that guy was late to the party and the rest of us had all gotten past that part of the thread already LOL
merry christmas ;)

Yes it was. Merry Christmas to you and yours as well.
I don't know of you recall the conversation in another post regarding the purchase of a Stag 10. Basically, I had written that I needed to sell a few firearms to get a stag 10. So, though it pains me to sell anything, I really want a Stag 10.
 
I agree. For example, I somewhat doubt any of the M14 Medic GI builds on gauged Norinco receivers will ever sell under $1000. Think $2000+ without optics. But whatever. The world is full of people who won't ever buy a BMW when a chevy cobalt will get them from A to B.

I own a BMW, and I’ve had a Norc 305. An LRB is closer to a BMW in that it has a 3 letter name and has a nice finish. I would certainly not suggest any M1a variant is the ultimate shooting machine lol
 
Well, FWIW, I have and lrb in front of me, and on the dimensions that most matter, in some ways the norinco is superior. Especially internal dimensions at the heel and safety bridge.
 
Well, FWIW, I have and lrb in front of me, and on the dimensions that most matter, in some ways the norinco is superior. Especially internal dimensions at the heel and safety bridge.
That the one you’re trying to sell? Chi-com guns are like Chinese dissidents, they’re worth more parted out. M1a variants are niche guns. They’re fun but should not be taken too seriously.
 
That the one you’re trying to sell? Chi-com guns are like Chinese dissidents, they’re worth more parted out. M1a variants are niche guns. They’re fun but should not be taken too seriously.

With all things being equal, I would probably take the LRB over the Norinco. However, if I knew with certainty that the Norinco had the better receiver, I wouldn't hesitate to take the Norinco over the LRB. You were obviously speaking for yourself when you commented above, because your comments do not at all reflect the thoughts of the larger M14 community.
 
That the one you’re trying to sell? Chi-com guns are like Chinese dissidents, they’re worth more parted out. M1a variants are niche guns. They’re fun but should not be taken too seriously.

One of them, yes. I have more than one lrb, and have worked on a few more. I've pretty much worked on all the variants.
 
With all things being equal, I would probably take the LRB over the Norinco. However, if I knew with certainty that the Norinco had the better receiver, I wouldn't hesitate to take the Norinco over the LRB. You were obviously speaking for yourself when you commented above, because your comments do not at all reflect the thoughts of the larger M14 community.
To paraphrase an earlier comment, a mutt can be great dog, but no one is going to pay premium prices for one. It used to be that anything but a Norc was hard to find in Canada. Now not so much. The market reflects this. Both a Norc and LRB will make a decent service rifle style weapon. The LRB is a more refined version. I don’t speak for any community. The market certainly does. Anyone can make an assertion about the market in their opinion. Ymmv. As far as I know, no competition requires an M1a rifle to compete in Canada. Safe bet that no one in Canada is making a living building them.
 
Well, FWIW, I have and lrb in front of me, and on the dimensions that most matter, in some ways the norinco is superior. Especially internal dimensions at the heel and safety bridge.

the safety bridge, from what I can find, the hardest part to machine properly, and least understood by most platform owners, if they consider it at all. been trying to find out as much as I can about it, very little info. I suspect that it indirectly affects the bolt movement via the firing pin, thus affects accuracy, only my suspicion. another rabbit hole to go down. enjoy the holidays with your family.
 
One of them, yes. I have more than one lrb, and have worked on a few more. I've pretty much worked on all the variants.

And... can you give any sort of accuracy guarantee? Does anybody give one? They’re not precision rifles. Why would you pay a premium price for one based on a cheap Chinese receiver.
 
And... can you give any sort of accuracy guarantee? Does anybody give one? They’re not precision rifles. Why would you pay a premium price for one based on a cheap Chinese receiver.

Cheap in price.....absoltely.Cheap in quality...maybe. If I have a good receiver it doesn't matter to me in the least that it's Chinese. When it's all said and done I have great rifle regarless of who made the receiver.
 
Cheap in price.....absoltely.Cheap in quality...maybe. If I have a good receiver it doesn't matter to me in the least that it's Chinese. When it's all said and done I have great rifle regarless of who made the receiver.
How’s it shoot? Why should I pay anything beyond a Chinese price for it?
 
No m14 will outshooting a high end bolt action rig, and many ar10 designs will outshine m14 groups.

People who like the m14, typically like it for other reasons like reliability, nostalgia, etc.

And that’s what is attractive about a Norc. You get or I should say you used to get a decent gun for a steal that you could have fun cleaning up to the point it would be reliable. Mutts make great dogs but you can’t make them something they aren’t (valuable). >1K for one maybe, from me? I think not. In truth having owned and built several LRBs I have no want of a Chicom M1a at any price. I was never in the Red Army so no nastalgia for me there. If FALs were an option that would be something else but a Chinese one? No. That’d be like two boys kissing in church. Just wrong!
 
How’s it shoot? Why should I pay anything beyond a Chinese price for it?

Of course a bolt action is capable of much better accuracy than a M14. Mine will shoot moa consistantly, and that is all I want or expect from it. This is not to say I could npt ring out a little more accuracy with more load development..
 
I am thinking of selling my Norinco M14. I was wondering, realistically, what I could get for it. Here is a list of what I have had done to it to date:
Barrel cut to 18.5, or legal length.
Dlask gas lock front sight, Dlask flashhider/muzzle brake.
Trigger work.
Extractor, ejector, roller on bolt replaced.
S&J Hardware op rod spring guide and spring
Garand rear sight with new elevation pinion.
Oprod tab has had metal added to it to fit the channel precisely.
Metal has been added to the rear of the bolt lugs for precise mating, and precise headspace
Gas system unitized.
GI fiberglass stock. Not yet modified. With rubber recoil pad.
Splines peened
Oprod guide staked.
I think that is it. Any input would be appreciated.


I am very late to this party, but I will say this. Nick at Vulcan does top quality work I have sent in a bunch of projects over the years and have been more than happy with the prices and the finished product. I have had the same process done to one of my SA M14 bolts and there has been zero issues.

Seems like a lot of good work has been done to this rifle already, all the normal fixes plus the more advanced stuff like the op rod tab and bolt and unitized gas system which is all great and I would think it certainly adds value to the rifle over a stock unmodified norc.

The only problem I see would be finding the right buyer. Some folks may want an entry level m14 clone and want it to work correctly and not have to do any work to it. This rifle would be great for them however, the cutting down of the barrel and the addition of the Dlask parts may throw some people off. Especially people who want the classic look of an M14, they could buy this yes but they would have to spend additional money to get the classic look of the gas system and flash hider back unless you include those parts with the sale. If someone wants a rifle with a 22 inch barrel than this it may not be worth it to buy this build and then buy another barrel.

The key is finding someone who wants this exact look and that can certainly take some time to sell, but to the right person it would definitely be worth the price. I would say you should be safe to ask $800-$850 ish. I know good money has been spent on the upgrades but its still a Norinco and its still used. They simply do not command the same value as an SAI or LRB, Fulton etc. Now if it was a Norc receiver and was rebuilt and was chalk full of USGI parts then that's a different story. A GI fiberglass stock cant really add to much more to it if its the only GI part.

It definitely sucks selling off something that you have put the time, effort, and money into. It's hard try to recoup all those costs.

Just my $0.02.

CeeJay
 
I am very late to this party, but I will say this. Nick at Vulcan does top quality work I have sent in a bunch of projects over the years and have been more than happy with the prices and the finished product. I have had the same process done to one of my SA M14 bolts and there has been zero issues.

Seems like a lot of good work has been done to this rifle already, all the normal fixes plus the more advanced stuff like the op rod tab and bolt and unitized gas system which is all great and I would think it certainly adds value to the rifle over a stock unmodified norc.

The only problem I see would be finding the right buyer. Some folks may want an entry level m14 clone and want it to work correctly and not have to do any work to it. This rifle would be great for them however, the cutting down of the barrel and the addition of the Dlask parts may throw some people off. Especially people who want the classic look of an M14, they could buy this yes but they would have to spend additional money to get the classic look of the gas system and flash hider back unless you include those parts with the sale. If someone wants a rifle with a 22 inch barrel than this it may not be worth it to buy this build and then buy another barrel.

The key is finding someone who wants this exact look and that can certainly take some time to sell, but to the right person it would definitely be worth the price. I would say you should be safe to ask $800-$850 ish. I know good money has been spent on the upgrades but its still a Norinco and its still used. They simply do not command the same value as an SAI or LRB, Fulton etc. Now if it was a Norc receiver and was rebuilt and was chalk full of USGI parts then that's a different story. A GI fiberglass stock cant really add to much more to it if its the only GI part.

It definitely sucks selling off something that you have put the time, effort, and money into. It's hard try to recoup all those costs.

Just my $0.02.

CeeJay

I agree with everything you wrote, except that I am not in dire need of selling the rifle. I want to buy something else, but it is not a need, but a want.
 
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