Primer Pocket Swager

[Sandro c]

Anyone have any experience with swaging 223Rem ammo? Im looking at a RCBS primer pocket swager. Seems to work well on videos I watched on U tube and is reasonably priced. Thanks

 

[wheaty]

They work well

 

[toxic]

I've done lots with a Dillon Super Swage. Highly recommend.

 

[270 totheend]

I have the press mounted RCBS but found it too slow so I looked at the Dillon. YouTube videos showed some guys using the Dillon but mounted vertically for easier use so I went with the Frankford Arsenal one. I broke a spring on mine and instead of shipping me a new spring they sent an entire new swager.
The Frankford one mounts in a vertical position and the casing support rod pops open after swaging. I have done about 2k 9mm, 1k 5.56 and a few hundred 300 blackout, I love it.

 

[Potashminer]

No clue how they might compare to something else, but I have done hundreds (thousands?) of 5.56 NATO brass with RCBS Primer Pocket Swager - seems to have worked fine. I like that swapping the stub thing also allows me to do 7.62 NATO with the same unit. RCBS P/N 9481 is what I have - has a separate pin for 7.62 NATO - I do not use the thing often - do a batch of a couple hundred cases and typically do not do more for years, until I lose enough.

 

[257hunter]

The rcbs kit has worked great for me but can get pretty tedious if doing large amounts. If I was planning to process another big batch of brass I would look at upgrading to something like the Dillon.

 

[Snider shooter]

I use mine about 3 times a year on various military cases. Works well. I only do 200 to 300 at a time so doesn’t take much time.

 

[TrxR]

I've done a couple thousand IVI 556 with a Dillon super swage

 

[PPCLI-Jim]

As I was doing a few k of .223 and crimped 9mm this how I deal with the crimp.

 

[Paul_T]

After I did a couple hundred with the RCBS I looked at the tub filled with another couple thousand and bought a Dillon.

 

[Boomer686]

DIllon super swager for sure is the way to go. Buy once, cry once!

 

[acrashb]

Anyone have any experience with swaging 223Rem ammo? Im looking at a RCBS primer pocket swager. Seems to work well on videos I watched on U tube and is reasonably priced. Thanks

https://squibloads.wordpress.com/reloading/get-the-crimp-out/

^ will give you comparisons to other methods. TL;DR: the RCBS system works fine.

 

[m_moss23]

Anyone have any experience with swaging 223Rem ammo? Im looking at a RCBS primer pocket swager. Seems to work well on videos I watched on U tube and is reasonably priced. Thanks

I’ve done lots of surplus 308 and 303 brass with mine . Just take your time . Should work fine for 223

 

[boxhitch]

As I was doing a few k of .223 and crimped 9mm this how I deal with the crimp.

I like that, can work for depth uniformer and general cleaner at the same time
IDT the loss of a few shards of brass changes the brass use or life at all

 

[Hitzy]

I use the RCBS on most of it, but if it's a half ass crimp/punch like Hirtenberger 308, I just use the chamfer tool.

 

[Potashminer]

Boxhitch - Post #14 - I am like you - not sure if missing brass, right there, actually makes any difference or not - I had read many folk simply "cut out" the crimp, instead of swaging the brass back to shape. I suspect that I loose more than I should - so I can not say if Cutting or Swaging is "better" or "longer lasting".

 

[PPCLI-Jim]

Boxhitch - Post #14 - I am like you - not sure if missing brass, right there, actually makes any difference or not - I had read many folk simply "cut out" the crimp, instead of swaging the brass back to shape. I suspect that I loose more than I should - so I can not say if Cutting or Swaging is "better" or "longer lasting".

I've been doing it this way for a long time, I'm not removing a bunch of material. I'm not doing more than a tenth of an inch around the area where the crimp was applied.

 

[Butcherbill]

I've been doing it this way for a long time, I'm not removing a bunch of material. I'm not doing more than a tenth of an inch around the area where the crimp was applied.

That’s what I noticed, running a Lyman small primer pocket reamer into crimped .223 brass only removes the crimped lip at the pocket opening, it doesn’t do anything noticeable to the bottom of the pocket.

 

[PPCLI-Jim]

I removed a bit off the tip of it because I was doing a bunch 4k+ of IVI brass and about 3k+ of duty 9mm ammo from the Kings Cowboys lane that they leave behind. I was getting some crushed primers, due to not removing the crimp fully

 

[legi0n]

the RCBS works well for neat crimps (like Hitzy said)
it helps to lube the die every now and then with whatever case lube you are using