PRIMERS at 500 per K
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Who is insane enough to pay that much for primers? At that kind of price, I'd just buy factory ammo.
When you see things like that you wonder if there isn't some type of scam being pulled. Create a shortage then bid the crap lot of the item to build up the panic. Now that the price is up there bring back the product at a grossly inflated price and sell all your product.
A version of pump and dump
Let's say you have a stockpile. List a brick and have a couple buddies bid the crap out of it. You owe the money to yourself so in the end it only cost auction fees. Then list your product at $500 a brick and everybody buys you out because they think it is a steal since the one you listed went for $950
A version of pump and dump
Let's say you have a stockpile. List a brick and have a couple buddies bid the crap out of it. You owe the money to yourself so in the end it only cost auction fees. Then list your product at $500 a brick and everybody buys you out because they think it is a steal since the one you listed went for $950
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Went to a gun show yesterday, seems $200 per 1k is what they were selling for their where some guys asking even more for 100 primers though 
Not nice since I'm going to be needing SRP and a bit of LRP.
Not nice since I'm going to be needing SRP and a bit of LRP.
mmcintyre1220
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A month before this shortage really hit Canada I sold 10,000 LRP to purchase SRP's. I don't regret it one bit as at the time the prices were about equal. It's all about supply and demand and when the market is complete dry, the buyer dictates the market. It's all about how much someone is willing to pay. Having said that some guys one here and especially gun post are straight up out to lunch. Asking $2000 for 1000 LRP is absolutely insane. IMO, a fair market price is around $300/1000 for LRP right now.
I learned my lesson in 08 when we had a pretty dry spell on ammunition and reloading components. It lasted just over a year but what I went through in that year stayed fresh in my mind. Once I started seeing the infighting in the US, the elections coming, the pandemic, I knew we were in for an absolute sh*t show that would last for years to come. I made sure I had enough components and select factory ammo on hand to last 5-10 years. (5 years of regular volume, 10 being conservative).
I learned my lesson in 08 when we had a pretty dry spell on ammunition and reloading components. It lasted just over a year but what I went through in that year stayed fresh in my mind. Once I started seeing the infighting in the US, the elections coming, the pandemic, I knew we were in for an absolute sh*t show that would last for years to come. I made sure I had enough components and select factory ammo on hand to last 5-10 years. (5 years of regular volume, 10 being conservative).
sharp shooter
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I just traded 1000 SRP to a friend for a few old boxes of shotgun shells that I didn't have in my collection. I paid $40 /1000 so we both felt good about the deal. All the guys here selling and buying for the ridiculous prices are all a__holes. The vendors know this and will be jacking up their prices when they come back on the shelves now you idiots. The people buying and selling at the outrageous prices are complete losers.
There were no warm summer 'zen' afternoons plinking at the range this year.
ATM, I'm OKish. I reload for 12 calibres and can utilize every size of primer. I have 11,000ish primers and the rest of the components to shoot any of my firearms but, due to the continuing component shortages & pricing, my plinking/gong ringing/range time is getting less & less.
Stopped by my LGS last week & left with 3/8oz fishing jigs.
ATM, I'm OKish. I reload for 12 calibres and can utilize every size of primer. I have 11,000ish primers and the rest of the components to shoot any of my firearms but, due to the continuing component shortages & pricing, my plinking/gong ringing/range time is getting less & less.
Stopped by my LGS last week & left with 3/8oz fishing jigs.
migrant hunter
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I can only assume some people have a very specific rifle load recipe if they're paying those prices. I just bought some ammo in cabelas sale because I can't load it for the price I paid. I don't see how paying a buck for a primer makes any sense.
A buck a primer would hard to take for awhile; but in some cases its still a lot cheaper than shooting factory. Even if you paid a buck for the primer, a buck for the powder and a buck for the bullet its "only" 60 bucks a box. That's pretty cheap compared to (example) 120 for the 300 Weatherby (with Interlocks) I saw the other day. That's the cheap stuff.
Then there's availability. One could argue that our carefully worked up handloads aren't available at any price, and never were. Even if there was a premium factory load with the same bullet you'd settle for the chances of a local store having 5 boxes of a less common caliber are next to nothing. You can assembly those with 100 a sleeve primers and be back in the game. There are a lot of enthusiasts on the forum who deliberately shoot odd-balls for reasons of performance or just a desire to be different. How about wildcatters, collectors and precision shooters? If it wasn't for handloading they wouldn't have gotten them in the first place.
I do wonder what kind of person would bid primers up to 1000 a brick though. What seems to go the highest are the Federal 215Ms and 210Ms. That would suggest that long range enthusiasts and long range target shooters who know exactly what they want; but you'd sort of think that those are the last guys who would get caught short. Not necessarily though; if a target shooter sees his season approaching and is wondering if he's going to be in it whats the price of sitting it out?
Hoarders won't pay that or anywhere near that. They bought cheap a long time ago. That's sort of the nature of hoarding. I can see hunters paying a stupid price for a few sleeves that someone found while cleaning out their reloading room. They don't need many anyway, and maybe they already have their loads worked up and don't want to change. Plinkers can shoot anything so there's no need to bid high on anything in particular. Could it be someone that knows what he wants and is scared that there never will be primers available again? Maybe he just doesn't want to take that chance, and maybe 1000 bucks isn't very much money to him? Maybe he's not wrong.
Then there's availability. One could argue that our carefully worked up handloads aren't available at any price, and never were. Even if there was a premium factory load with the same bullet you'd settle for the chances of a local store having 5 boxes of a less common caliber are next to nothing. You can assembly those with 100 a sleeve primers and be back in the game. There are a lot of enthusiasts on the forum who deliberately shoot odd-balls for reasons of performance or just a desire to be different. How about wildcatters, collectors and precision shooters? If it wasn't for handloading they wouldn't have gotten them in the first place.
I do wonder what kind of person would bid primers up to 1000 a brick though. What seems to go the highest are the Federal 215Ms and 210Ms. That would suggest that long range enthusiasts and long range target shooters who know exactly what they want; but you'd sort of think that those are the last guys who would get caught short. Not necessarily though; if a target shooter sees his season approaching and is wondering if he's going to be in it whats the price of sitting it out?
Hoarders won't pay that or anywhere near that. They bought cheap a long time ago. That's sort of the nature of hoarding. I can see hunters paying a stupid price for a few sleeves that someone found while cleaning out their reloading room. They don't need many anyway, and maybe they already have their loads worked up and don't want to change. Plinkers can shoot anything so there's no need to bid high on anything in particular. Could it be someone that knows what he wants and is scared that there never will be primers available again? Maybe he just doesn't want to take that chance, and maybe 1000 bucks isn't very much money to him? Maybe he's not wrong.
Yeah, like every American election. Or gun bill.
There were no warm summer 'zen' afternoons plinking at the range this year.
ATM, I'm OKish. I reload for 12 calibres and can utilize every size of primer. I have 11,000ish primers and the rest of the components to shoot any of my firearms but, due to the continuing component shortages & pricing, my plinking/gong ringing/range time is getting less & less.
Stopped by my LGS last week & left with 3/8oz fishing jigs.
Couple weeks ago I went to our local gun store and left with two cases of cat food lol
mmcintyre1220
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mmcintyre1220
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- Tillsonburg, Ontario
It's called supply and demand, not demand and offer. Right now the supply is non existent and the demand is at an all time high. This in turn leads to the market determining what a product is worth, not the manufacturer or reseller. The government is not manipulating importation of reloading components lol. Take a look at the US, there are no large rifle primers or large pistol primers to be found. Small pistol and rifle primers are in very tight supply and cost around $120 US on average. Until the US is restocked on factory ammunition and reloading components, you can forget about us here in Canada
I was super glad I bought two bricks of SP Ginex shipped for the price of 1 brick off gun post before shipping.
I saw some $200 bricks of GINEX that ppl obviously scooped from TNA at $83/1k or $66/1k if the got the 5k for price of 4k deal.
$50-90/100 in 210M? LOL I have so many loaded under trail boss for plinking cause it was all I had then.
I saw some $200 bricks of GINEX that ppl obviously scooped from TNA at $83/1k or $66/1k if the got the 5k for price of 4k deal.
$50-90/100 in 210M? LOL I have so many loaded under trail boss for plinking cause it was all I had then.
