Prohibited ar15

TSE JR said:
Absolutely not! This is death by 1000 cuts. Small victories is what they want to keep the ball moving towards the end goal of taking away ALL our firearms. We need to fight them every step of the way.
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This. This involves your right/responsibility to be a law abiding citizen, and treated accordingly. Not branded a criminal because the bureaucrats needed to do something to justify their unearned/unjustifiable pensions.
 
Conscript said:
I disagree, it's clear the ones after our guns are not governed by common sense, they are after superficial bans like markings on a receiver, or messages on wood, etc.. Although they do affect some gun owners, generally the field is still unaffected.

As long as we fight back in the other direction to put someone like Maxime in Ottawa, they will continue to go after small tit-for-tat victories that do not affect us as a whole. There needs to be some sacrifice for us to gain time to put someone in Ottawa who understands that we are NOT criminals, and petty prohibitions like the one above have just riled gun owners and people of intelligence to vote in the right direction.

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i beg to differ and find your over all point of view appalling.....
I don't own an AR15 , probably never will. I do believe they should be non restricted and will support all causes to see that end.

the only way forward is mass, unarmed, peaceful and organized non compliance in front of the media.
Trudeau, his liberals and every other public safety compromising mutherfugger in parliament are a treasonous bunch of crimminals going after law abiding citizens for the crimes and actions of the degenerates in our society.
Screw em.
 
Conscript said:
No, giving them small victories here is a good thing. It stops them from impeding too far into reclassifications.

People who are anti-gunners are idiotic wolves with short term goals in mind. As long as the wolf has something to eat, we can go about our daily lives and plan out how to kill the wolf and the pack.
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I guess you see C-68, C-42 and C-71 as victories as well
 
The question has already been asked in Bartok5's thread in the Black Rifle forum but has any owner actually received a letter stating this? My understanding is that dealers were contacted by the CFC and they in turn contacted those who had purchased the rifles and informed them the rifles had to be returned.

I understand this to be important as a challenge of the lab's findings can only be initiated by an owner who has received a notice of revocation from the CFC.

So basically we need an owner who's willing to refuse to return the rifle and force the CFC to mail a notice. Finding a firearms org to help fund this battle probably wouldn't hurt either.
 
Conscript said:
You need a village or two to burn before you get enough fuel for the entire tribe to raise hell. This is how it was and always is.

We can use prohibitions like this to educate and show people that none of this makes any sense. Without petty examples, you won't convince people that we are in grave danger.
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Nice of you to volunteer other people to take one for the team...too many villages have been burned already.

It’s infuriating to actually read this crap from gun owners...Next time they prohibit one of my guns I’ll be sure to think of you.
 
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John, it was clear when the firearms lab reclassified the high standard 10b that they were demonstrating that the RCMP over rules parliament.

Allowing that precident to stand will determine whether we are a nation of laws, or merely another banana paramilitary dictatorship.

This is merely the next step.

Allowing the RCMP to "determine" that parliament was incorrect when parliament classified these 2 firearms as restricted is very loose footing on an icy slope...
 
Letters matter but numbers count more. Take someone to your club and ask them to get an RPAL.

I think we (as gun lovers) should each pay the permit costs to get at least one new shooter registered. I have four new persons registered with RPALs this year that I can take credit for.

Otherwise we shrink, dry up and get stepped on.
 
Conscript said:
I take it as this way, there has to be a game of take and give. You have to feed the rabid anti-gunners with something, just so they can claim they're making grounds. Even though the stupidity of this prohibition of this particular AR is apparent to us, to them, they see it as a small victory.
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It isn't a game of give and take if only the take is happening. When was the last time they gave us something?
 
Davy Crockett said:
The question has already been asked in Bartok5's thread in the Black Rifle forum but has any owner actually received a letter stating this? My understanding is that dealers were contacted by the CFC and they in turn contacted those who had purchased the rifles and informed them the rifles had to be returned.

I understand this to be important as a challenge of the lab's findings can only be initiated by an owner who has received a notice of revocation from the CFC.

So basically we need an owner who's willing to refuse to return the rifle and force the CFC to mail a notice. Finding a firearms org to help fund this battle probably wouldn't hurt either.
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The RCMP SFSS pass an opinion, the FRT is not law, any one can challenge an opinion, you do not have to be an owner. You could be the owner, importer, dealer or organisation. It is long past time that we all stood together.

As this is my forum any more posts on appeasement will be censored because it sickens me. Read some history!
 
Rocket_James said:
Letters matter but numbers count more. Take someone to your club and ask them to get an RPAL.

I think we (as gun lovers) should each pay the permit costs to get at least one new shooter registered. I have four new persons registered with RPALs this year that I can take credit for.

Otherwise we shrink, dry up and get stepped on.
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I posted this in another thread but my wife was instrumental in getting 7 of her coworkers to sign up for the RPAL and CORE (BC hunting course) that starts I think this coming weekend. I keep sending her to work with printouts of facts and such that have been posted so far and she leaves them on the staff tables at the hospital. Nurses station, waiting area, cafeteria/lounge ect. I've been sticking stuff on community boards around town too. Like fact sheets on canadian licensing and firearms ownership and fact sheets on bill c71 and c75
So my methods seem to be working as it sparked conversation at my wife's work and a few weeks later, 7 girls are signed up and paid for the courses..... despite these liberal clowns.
I feel warm and fuzzy but realize it's but a small victory.

So I ask all gun owners that take the time to peruse these threads and post thier responses..... what have you done today to educate your fellow canadians?
 
Conscript said:
No, giving them small victories here is a good thing. It stops them from impeding too far into reclassifications.

People who are anti-gunners are idiotic wolves with short term goals in mind. As long as the wolf has something to eat, we can go about our daily lives and plan out how to kill the wolf and the pack.
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The answer is not to feed them, it is to redirect their ravenous SJW appetites towards something else entirely.

Gun Control advocates are akin to a racist hate group or religious zealots, they believe what they do in the utter absence of any tangible proof so they choose to present skewed and inaccurate statistics to bolster their wild claims. These fabrications can be logically countered by most firearms owners and torn to absolute shreds by the more astute among us. Yet still they persist, still they get media attention, constantly fishing for more easily-fooled cult members to join them on their pointless crusade.
 
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Mr Wolverine said:
The RCMP SFSS pass an opinion, the FRT is not law, any one can challenge an opinion, you do not have to be an owner. You could be the owner, importer, dealer or organisation. It is long past time that we all stood together.

As this is my forum any more posts on appeasement will be censored because it sickens me. Read some history!
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Ya!,!! Go bend over somewhere else.....it sickens me as well.
 
Conscript said:
As long as we fight back in the other direction to put someone like Maxime in Ottawa...
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please, please tell me your NOT one of those ppl who will follow Maxime Bernier on some wild goose chase, splitting the conservative vote....a mere year before the election....and ENSURING another term for turdeau.

It scares me that some ppl will do this.....Andrew might not be the most outspoken leader....but we NEED everybody to vote conservative...so we can take power...then look at leadership after that

sry to point that out John in your thread, but I am really worried about vote splitting in the next election.....another liberal term will ensure only criminals have guns in canada
 
slim123 said:
please, please tell me your NOT one of those ppl who will follow Maxime Bernier on some wild goose chase, splitting the conservative vote....a mere year before the election....and ENSURING another term for turdeau.

It scares me that some ppl will do this.....Andrew might not be the most outspoken leader....but we NEED everybody to vote conservative...so we can take power...then look at leadership after that

sry to point that out John in your thread, but I am really worried about vote splitting in the next election.....another liberal term will ensure only criminals have guns in canada
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No need to be sorry, you are 100% correct.
 
Conscript said:
You need a village or two to burn before you get enough fuel for the entire tribe to raise hell. This is how it was and always is.

We can use prohibitions like this to educate and show people that none of this makes any sense. Without petty examples, you won't convince people that we are in grave danger.
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You should go appease the Gun Grabbing Gods by sacrifying all you firearms then...
 
Quote Originally Posted by slim123 View Post
please, please tell me your NOT one of those ppl who will follow Maxime Bernier on some wild goose chase, splitting the conservative vote....a mere year before the election....and ENSURING another term for turdeau.

It scares me that some ppl will do this.....Andrew might not be the most outspoken leader....but we NEED everybody to vote conservative...so we can take power...then look at leadership after that

sry to point that out John in your thread, but I am really worried about vote splitting in the next election.....another liberal term will ensure only criminals have guns in canada
No need to be sorry, you are 100% correct.

You nailed it !
 
Maybe a few of the larger independent retailers in Canada could get together and put their collective experience to work and organize a gofundme campaign to get the word out and challenge some of this stuff?

Get together, discuss, strategize, organize an awareness campaign, launch a GFM campaign, retain some sort of counsel and go from there. Just a thought - maybe I'm being naive.
 
Every single gun owner in canada should be worried right now. Everyone should be buying more restricteds. Getting more people to get licenses. Writing and mailing letters weekly. We have been posting about c71 and only 70 people wrote to the secu with a brief even though we have 2 million licensed owners. I have sent 50 plus emails and 100s of letters. It's free to send. We all need to make noise. A lot of it. Everyone who has an rpal please buy another lower for the safe. If we had 2 million ar15s in canada they might think differently. Like it or not it is the symbol of gun control. More then anything else they want those gone. It is a line in the sand we have to protect. Once it falls all semis are next.
 
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