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PRS Match CDTSA Milo Range
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Info on this?
I am not sure where the charity shoot came from but it looks good (makes my poor event seem piddly...). Was it advertised anywhere? Surprised I missed it.
Moving on though. The event will allow for semi's but unfortunately no 50BMG as the range is not approved for it, I will admit that seeing someone run around with a 50 shooting off of barricades would be fun though. I don't think a 338 would be the best choice either but I know Kevin has a few sweet rigs to choose from.
The rule book will be pretty similar to the PRS matches down in the states but probably with some additional safety measures. All movement will be done with bolt open and for semis the mags will have to be removed. I know this is annoying but the thought is that it is better to be super safe and get to have many events in the future rather than have one event only due to an ND/AD.
At the end of the day it is a PRS style event. I am hoping that it can grow and we can maybe align things more closely as it gets more advanced. Please contact me if you have any questions about it though.
With the unfortunate passing of Kelvin things are a bit in flux at the club but I will try to keep everyone up to date with information.
Moving on though. The event will allow for semi's but unfortunately no 50BMG as the range is not approved for it, I will admit that seeing someone run around with a 50 shooting off of barricades would be fun though. I don't think a 338 would be the best choice either but I know Kevin has a few sweet rigs to choose from.
The rule book will be pretty similar to the PRS matches down in the states but probably with some additional safety measures. All movement will be done with bolt open and for semis the mags will have to be removed. I know this is annoying but the thought is that it is better to be super safe and get to have many events in the future rather than have one event only due to an ND/AD.
At the end of the day it is a PRS style event. I am hoping that it can grow and we can maybe align things more closely as it gets more advanced. Please contact me if you have any questions about it though.
With the unfortunate passing of Kelvin things are a bit in flux at the club but I will try to keep everyone up to date with information.
onetwentyish
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Wow. This rule to me really sucks. We better be doing some serious gymnastic #### to warrant it considering this rule doesn't apply to 3 gun.
For bolt, leaving the bolt open is fine, but for semis, shouldn't the safety be good enough? Everytime we go to change positions we will have to drop the mag and rake the charging handle, causing us to loose unspent ammunition. The other issue is that then we wont be able to reload on the move then where bolt guys can.
Sure us semi guys could try and anticipate how many shots we will take in paricular part of a stage so we can have the bolt lock open before we move, or we could remove the mag before taking our last shot, but I can't tell you how many times I am going to miss.
As it stands I will not be making the 7+hour round trip for this event unfortunately.
FYI, 3gun DID have that rule too at shepard. (We are still trying to figure it out for Milo though)
<But some gymnastics did apply>
<But some gymnastics did apply>
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It was imposed on Shepard by the CFO (same with no shooting jacketed rounds on steel) due to the proximity of houses to Shepard. At least that is the explanation I received from our recently departed president.
Milo should not be hamstrung by those conditions, unless of course the club exec. want to stick to it for some reason.
However, if one follows a strict 180 degree rule, and finger off trigger, and back it up with a match DQ, it is a non-issue.
IPSC, IDPA, Service Conditions and a number of other disciplines have been operating like this for many, many years safely.
PRS has a max. .30 cal round rule and accounts for hot gun movement, so it is what you make it.
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Safety on. If it isn't, disqualified for the day. No exceptions.
ND is disqualification for remainder of CQB events on the year.
Serious rules for serious issue. Stripping mags and dumping spent ammo from the chamber is silly.
I take it handgun events like ipsc and idpa won't be forced to follow this rule, of stripping the mag and clearing the action before moving.
ND is disqualification for remainder of CQB events on the year.
Serious rules for serious issue. Stripping mags and dumping spent ammo from the chamber is silly.
I take it handgun events like ipsc and idpa won't be forced to follow this rule, of stripping the mag and clearing the action before moving.
Hahaha, I love the idea of shooting a PRS match with a semi auto .50, but it's just too dang expensive lol. Good thing the range isn't templated for it haw haw...
My .338 isn't a super heavyweight and although it's not as suited to the challenge as the custom built 6mm and 6.5mm PRS rifles they use in the states, I'll be doing this as a learning experience with my gun. Already shot a few 1000 yard matches with it at CFB borden and CFB Petawawa, and those were very fun, and were great for improving my skills and just having fun!
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Rules are rules. Removing a mag from a semi for movement is no big deal. It's good training. If I make it out, I plan to run an AR even though I have a decent bolt gun. This rule doesn't mean it'll be any less fun.
Where's that fine and memory muscle control video again...
The only thing I'll comment on is a 338 might be hard on targets... Even the big boomer 30cal's might be. AR500 will stand up to it, but we should be well prepared to do field fixes on stands. Maybe Alerin or another welder can bring their truck out? There was a guy in a white dodge that came out a few times for pistol night that had a mobile rig too. I'm sure they aren't the only welders in the club.
PRS rules also state a max velocity.. 3200fps? Velocity is what damages AR500, not mass of projectile. That kills stands.
Rules are rules. Removing a mag from a semi for movement is no big deal. It's good training. If I make it out, I plan to run an AR even though I have a decent bolt gun. This rule doesn't mean it'll be any less fun.
Where's that fine and memory muscle control video again...
The only thing I'll comment on is a 338 might be hard on targets... Even the big boomer 30cal's might be. AR500 will stand up to it, but we should be well prepared to do field fixes on stands. Maybe Alerin or another welder can bring their truck out? There was a guy in a white dodge that came out a few times for pistol night that had a mobile rig too. I'm sure they aren't the only welders in the club.
PRS rules also state a max velocity.. 3200fps? Velocity is what damages AR500, not mass of projectile. That kills stands.
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- East of Home, West of the Rest
Good training? Total BS.
When and why exactly would you train to remove a mag before you move?
Please tell me this rule for semi auto rifles won't carry over to semi auto pistols on an ipsc or idpa shoot.
If you can do it safely with a pistol, a rifle is no different. Hell, some pistols don't even have a safety to engage.
Passing it off on "good training" when it is something else is just ridiculous.
Rules are rules. But that doesn't mean they are good, necessary or fully thought out.
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onetwentyish
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I agree 100%
Just to clarify for everyone before this goes down hill. I am not speaking for the club, I am speaking for my event only. If anyone has questions about IPSC, IDPA, 3Gun, etc. please direct them to someone at the CDTSA as I have no knowledge of that.
I have consulted with several people who have shot these matches before in the US and this is a common rule. I am not trying to pick on any of semi-auto guys, I am just trying to organize a fun and inclusive event.
I have consulted with several people who have shot these matches before in the US and this is a common rule. I am not trying to pick on any of semi-auto guys, I am just trying to organize a fun and inclusive event.
You guys keep saying IPSC and IDPA....
To shoot IPSC and move with a hot gun you NEED to have your black badge which includes training on how to move with a hot gun.
Matches at CDTSA are NOT exclusive to black badge only. We are trying to get more new shooters that might not have the background or training to safely do that. SO we try to mitigate that chance of an accident by having some additional safety rules.
Don't want to side track the thread too much. This is about PRS and I am sure it is going to be epic, even if you have to open your bolt to run.
To shoot IPSC and move with a hot gun you NEED to have your black badge which includes training on how to move with a hot gun.
Matches at CDTSA are NOT exclusive to black badge only. We are trying to get more new shooters that might not have the background or training to safely do that. SO we try to mitigate that chance of an accident by having some additional safety rules.
Don't want to side track the thread too much. This is about PRS and I am sure it is going to be epic, even if you have to open your bolt to run.
