Question about beginner IPSC / IDPA gun

chewy06 said:
Thanks for the input guys.

Yes, CFG. Havent actually shot there yet, will probably try to go out next weekend (I hope).

Have messaged Robpad & will see definitely have a look at the adjustable backstrap guns.

Will continue to plod along and read what i can & am looking forward to having a 9mm in my hands again. :)
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Welcome to CFGPA! Great group of shooters out here and IDPA is a hell of a lot of fun, the crew out here really put in the effort when it comes to the shooting sports.
You can also give your GSG .22 a run in speed steel, the next one is on Sept 24th, but you will need at least 3 mags, although I prefer at least 5 lol. The next IDPA is on Oct 01 I believe, at the very least come out and meet a few of the people and have a look.
A few of us have been trying to get together on Friday afternoons lately for a bit of practice, and Pistol Bay 5 now has permanent steel targets to play with :)
There is also an IDPA practice night, usually Wednesday , however that may be changing to Tuesday indoor as the sun sets earlier now. If you would like to get out and run a few rounds down range, feel free to pm me and we can probably set something up.
Edgy
 
Canuck44 said:
If that is the case then it is not going to work in IPSC. I do know it is one heck of a pistol and we are going to see more of them in IDPA. That said with the US Army adopting the SIG 320 we are now seeing it more and more at events in the US. I know in 2016 I saw none come through my stage at the WA State Match. This year their was at least eight I counted. I suspect they will grow as folks down there buy what their military is using. The Glock 34 and M&P Pro continue to dominate SSP Division in terms of numbers and results.




Personally, I do like the PPQ. My question is do I want to gear up for it ie another holster. For someone who shoots IDPA and 3 Gun I have to say it is an amazing example of handgun design and function. I doubt I would shoot it any better than the other wonder boom sticks I have accumulated but hope does spring eternal. There just has to be a magic boom stick that overcomes skill.:>).

Take Care

Bob
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Love my Walther PPQ M2 5"! Trigger is truly a thing of beauty and does feel a lot lighter than its actual trigger pull weight. But as Onagoth pointed out I had to stop using it in IPSC once the trigger weight slipped a fraction below 5 lbs with use. Now it's relegated to my go to 3 Gun pistol.

Again, if you just want to get one pistol that will work very well in both IPSC and Idpa, 3 Gun etc., and don't want to break the bank, the CZ SP-01 Shadow (aka Shadow 1) is the gun I would be looking at. M + P, P320, HK's etc are all good guns but IMHO they simply don't compare to the Shadow.
 
lavino said:
Now back to the thread. I always wondering if there is some margin of trigger pull that is allowed? like if I measured at home 5.0001 and at the match someone measured 4.9999 and I not allow to shoot production on the spot then?
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Usually a 5lb weight is used. If the weight drops the hammer/striker three times you will be bumped into Open division.

From the rules:

When a minimum trigger pull is required by a Division, handguns will be tested as follows:

1. The unloaded handgun will be prepared as if the handgun is ready to fire a double action shot;

2. The trigger weight or scale will be attached as closely as possible to the center of the trigger face;

3. The trigger of the handgun must either:

(a) Raise and hold a 2.27 kg (5 lbs.) weight when the muzzle of the handgun is pointed vertically skywards and the handgun is gently raised; or

(b) Register not less than 2.27 kg (5 lbs.) on a scale using the procedure specified by the Range Master;

4. One of the above tests will be conducted a maximum of 3 times;

5. If the hammer or striker does not fall on any 1 of the 3 attempts in 3(a) above, or if the scale registers not less than 2.27 kg (5lbs.) in 3(b) above, the handgun has passed the test;

6. If the hammer or striker falls on all three (3) attempts in 3(a) above, or if the scale registers less than 2.27 kg (5lbs.) in 3(b) above, the handgun has failed the test and Rule 6.2.5.1 will apply.
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Ok, so thank you to everyone who has weighed in on this. Its been an interesting read & in parallel ive been off doing some research as well.

I have been in touch with robpad & am going to the CFPGA IDPA intro this coming saturday, super excited about this & am especially happy about the help from Robpad & edgy in getting me off on the right foot. I got to meet edgy & his wife at the range saturday morning & unfortunately I couldnt stay anywhere near as long as I wanted with them, they were super accommodating and very helpful showing me a number of their firearms & let me put a couple of clips through a few of them which has been very helpful in trying to get my brain around what i'm looking towards buying.

Edgy was also very helpful in giving my shiny new 1953 SKS the once over before i put the first round through it. Being a new shooter, its very helpful to have someone who knows the gun take a look to be sure that I got it clean enough.

It helps reinforce that the drive out to Chilliwack has been and will continue to be well worth it.

Thank you so much and, Im now shopping for a shadow. So, if anyone has a line on a deal on one, im all ears. :)
 
Nice to meet you Chewy, glad we could be of some help to you! I think the Shadow will be an excellent choice for you, you are a big guy, and those polymer guns probably felt like toys to you,lol.
That is a very clean SKS you got yourself there, haven't seen many personally in that nice of a condition!
Thanks for the kind words Still alive, you yourself are one of the most stand up guys I have met in the world of shooting, I'm just trying to pass on all the good Karma I have been the recipient of from so many members of CFGPA :)
 
Successfully completed my IDPA new shooter course on Saturday with Robpad. Had a blast (LOL) and learned a LOT. Highly recommend that experience!

Special thanks to Robpad for helping me out with hardware for the day. And the extra practice at tap & rack that particular firearm gave me. :)

Now, to get on with getting a 9mm.
 
chewy06 said:
Successfully completed my IDPA new shooter course on Saturday with Robpad. Had a blast (LOL) and learned a LOT. Highly recommend that experience!

Special thanks to Robpad for helping me out with hardware for the day. And the extra practice at tap & rack that particular firearm gave me. :)

Now, to get on with getting a 9mm.
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Last IDPA of the year is this coming Sunday, any chance you are going to shoot it? You obviously won't have your own handgun then, but if you want to borrow something to give it a go, let me know, I'm sure we could get you set up with something for the day :)
Robpad puts on an excellent course and really prepares you for your first time, I highly enjoyed it when I took it, glad you were able to attend one!
 
Thanks Edgy, appreciate that.

I'm going to try to get out to watch for a little bit, but wont have enough time to compete. Have an overnight camp & fish trip planned for next door for this weekend (Springs are in! woohoo!).

It will give me a little more time to work on some of the things that are all brand new to me before i compete for teh first time. :)
 
I personally would recommend to shoot 1,000-2,000 rounds during 1-2-3 months before getting into IDPA/IPSC (or even a holster course). Not because of the results, but for the safety reasons...
 
Thought I'd jump in on this thread and hijack it for my own newbie questions. I'm new to handgun shooting as well, and looking at IPSC somewhere down the line, after I'm more comfortable with shooting. I was, however, thinking of adding some cerakote to my gun to give it a bit more color, but I've heard that even a minor cosmetic adjustment like that will knock me out of Production division IPSC. Is that true?
 
DrVonSmith said:
Thought I'd jump in on this thread and hijack it for my own newbie questions. I'm new to handgun shooting as well, and looking at IPSC somewhere down the line, after I'm more comfortable with shooting. I was, however, thinking of adding some cerakote to my gun to give it a bit more color, but I've heard that even a minor cosmetic adjustment like that will knock me out of Production division IPSC. Is that true?
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Yes, that is correct.

IPSC Handgun Rule book - Appendix D4 - 16.1 "Other prohibited modifications include those which facilitate faster reloading (e.g. flared, enlarged and/or add-on magwells, etc.), changing the original color and/or finish of a handgun, and/or adding stripes, stippling or other embellishments."
 
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DrVonSmith said:
Well that's unfortunate. Seems like something that doesn't affect the performance of the gun shouldn't matter. :/ Guess my gun will stay plain looking.

Thanks for the info!
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Yup, I was going to paint fill a pistol I bought for IPSC but found out that would put me in Standard. Kinda silly rule seeing as it doesn't affect or enhance performance.
 
I'm surprised Freedom hasn't mentioned the Tanfoglio Stock 1. Specifically made for IDPA weight. Would be a fantastic pistol for IPSC as well as it's basically a lightened Stock 3
 
DrVonSmith said:
Well that's unfortunate. Seems like something that doesn't affect the performance of the gun shouldn't matter. :/ Guess my gun will stay plain looking.

Thanks for the info!
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It is one of those dumb rules that changes nothing but the colour of the firearm. The only 'logic' I can come up with is unless the manufacture offers that colour/finish, IPSC forbids it. So no flames or racing strips either! LOL.

Sorry for the tangent. Back to our regular scheduled programming.
 
frigpig said:
I'm surprised Freedom hasn't mentioned the Tanfoglio Stock 1. Specifically made for IDPA weight. Would be a fantastic pistol for IPSC as well as it's basically a lightened Stock 3
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Hmmm - slipped my mind, I guess - thanks for the reminder!

Ok, here's the Tanfoglio Stock I - 9mm - a very sweet steel gun that can accept ALL of the Xtreme & Unica parts from Tanfoglio as an upgrade path. (and remain IPSC production legal!)
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https://www.freedomventures.ca/products/tanfoglio-stock-1

SRP $1209.
 

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StoneHorse said:
It is one of those dumb rules that changes nothing but the colour of the firearm. The only 'logic' I can come up with is unless the manufacture offers that colour/finish, IPSC forbids it. So no flames or racing strips either! LOL.

Sorry for the tangent. Back to our regular scheduled programming.
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If I wanted to do some modification that is not permitted, in theory I can do my work and refinish the gun to cover it up

I'm thinking its easier to just say no refinishing of the gun vs have officials try and discover covered up modifications.

If a rule exists, there's usually a legitimate reason for it.
 
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