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I heard today that in Ontario you can't shoot some types of rifle ammo on certain ranges? Does anybody know specifics? I was told "steel core" or "full metal jacket" was not allowed on some ranges.
I am from Alberta and have never of heard this before. I have heard of wait times and line ups at ranges and driving for hours to get to a range in Ontario, but this is a new one for me!
Anyone have any feedback..... just curious...If So Ontario Shooters, keep up the hard fight of recreational shooting....your efforts and fight to enjoy your right is respected by this shooter
As Always, Happy Shooting
 
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Mostly clubs run by fudds who hate the cheap surplus ammo, and cheap guns!

They don't believe you can put rounds down range quickly and accurately at the same time, and ##### that nobody cleans up their cases!

Not just Ontario, it is happening all over the country at various clubs. All depends on wether or not the executive is full of grumpy old men!
 
Steel core ammo can ding the backstop if it is made of steel plate. For the same reason there is also a ban on centerfire rifles.

It is not a gov't regulation, but a stipulation of the backstop manufacturer.
 
I'm a new shooter in Toronto.
My club doesn't allow FMJ since they do more damage.
Totally understandable IMO.
Public range north of the city allows them though.
 
Ranges have limitations set on them by the CFO range inspectors that pertain to the type of backstop, environment etc.
Steel plates and backstops don't play well with steel cored and jacketed bullets.
Tracers can cause fires on dry grasslands or forests.

Some types of ammunition are prohibited - incendiary, and explosive.

Some types of ammo are restricted for commercial sale - frangible and AP.

So don't just blame the clubs.
 
We have restrictions on the outdoor range for Tracer ammunition , again i think its due to the forest area behind the rifle ranges .

Indoor we dont use hollow point ammunition because the jackets shatter and damage the drywall which thus has to be repaired.

no centerfire inside either due to it being 25 feet.
 
Interesting guys. I appreciate your input. I shoot service rifle, and as you can imagine alot of surplus ammo of all types comes out (with the exception of explosive and tracer of course lol, although that would be interesting I am sure positive and negative), and I may one day shoot service rifle out in Ontario, so hence why this was informative. I do suppose as one guy put it above, "don't blame the club's", it is the "CFO's" too. One may want to contact that particular CFO and the range you plan on shooting at a first and find out more on ammo aloud and not aloud. It could save by the sounds of it, a TON OF TROUBLE.
And yeah I gathered already full metal jacket rifle wouldn't be aloud if back stops on some ranges are steel. Hence on some of our particular INDOOR ranges in Alberta.

I was going for restrictions on ammo usage on "OUTDOOR RANGES" with good old "DIRT BERM BACK STOPS".

But never the less, interesting, thanks guys. I may have to drive 2 hours into Edmonton or drive to Red Deer or Calgary for good deals on ammo, but I am happy to be to a range that not alot of people use in 15mins out of my town. Trade offs of the big city I suppose. And thankfully no ammo restrictions (other than the obvious Explosive etc) out here I am aware of....Genece (probably spelled that wrong), Spruce Grove, Sherwood Park fish and game, etc etc (ALL OUT DOOR, and obviously this changes at indoor ranges in the city)

Any more incite appreciated on this topic, Thanks. Happy Shooting.
 
Our ranges at FRPC (frontenac rifle and pistol club) are good ol dirt berm backstops . however most of the time they are covered in heavy brush and i would bet money with how dry it gets around here in the summer a tracer could very easily set it ablaze .

however the bonus is i found out our outdoor range is rated for up to 50 cal . now im just trying to figure out how to sell a testicle.
 
In the same vein

My club allows .357, .40 (and a few other large calibers) (and .22 LR) but not .22 magnum.

I haven't tried to memorize the table as I'm only into .22 LR (I want to try out .22 short and .22 CB....... less bang for the almost the same buck?)
 
Another perspective on this is the damage caused by steel core ammo. We have used steel "T" bat posts for holding the target boards at the range...these have consistently been shot off by something or someone. The damage has been linked on numerous occasions to 7.62x39 ammo...most frequently steel core...as evidenced by the casing and ammo boxes left strewn about the range. There have been holes fired into garbage bins as well with the same cases laying near the bins.
Is this a problem with...as one poster commented..."FUDDS or GRUMPY OLD MEN"? No...it is a problem with someone who figures destroying club property is fun!!! The club has removed most of the steel gongs that were set up due to idiots cranking 7.62x39 ammo into them and causing severe damage. There was an incident where a fellow fired a pistol with lead bullet at one of these gongs and it returned to firing line striking another shooter. The gongs were removed immediately.
I can fully understand an ammo ban due to damage created...it is not an attack on cheap guns and cheap ammo. It is purely a safety issue for all the users of the range.
 
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The damage has been linked on numerous occasions to 7.62x39 ammo...most frequently steel core...as evidenced by the casing and ammo boxes left strewn about the range.
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We've had the same issues at our club plus a correlation between increased noise complaints from neighbours and large amounts of 7.62x39 cases and boxes left on the ground. A rule mandating no more steel core or FMJ seems to have solved the issue. Rapid-Fire Ricky Rambos seemed to have moved on, probably to Silverdale.
 
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