R18 Mk 3 vs Crypto vs BCL Badger Vs Raven Vs WK 180 Gen 3 Vs...Vs waiting for Poillevre

Bartok5 said:
A buddy tried to have his Raven anodized after it had already been CertaKoted by Lockhart. The anodizer had a heck of a time sand/bead blasting all of the CeraKote out of the nooks and crannies of the Upper and Lower Receivers, leaving small bits of CertaKote behind. It ended up looking terrible (blotchy, etc) when the anodizing process was eventually applied. So there's that.

Can't switch to a Nickel Boron Bolt Carrier unless you know of a place to get a parkerized Carrier coated, as the Raven Bolt Carrier is proprietary. You can't just swap it out with an AR15 Carrier....
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ouch, I know this may be sacrilegious but using some Molybdenum grease like Swiss automatfett or aeroshell 64 on the BCG while its warm out might be a good idea.
 
Bartok5 said:
the Silver edition is supposedly machined from 6064, so a softer alloy than the Platinum's 7075. That said, I have a Silver Edition Upper Receiver and a Platinum Edition spare Upper Receiver that I built up into a .300 Blk. Both Upper Receivers show early signs of wear on the interior walls where the Steel Bolt Carrier slides back and forth. You can see where the CeraKote has worn away, exposing the raw alloy to wear from the parkerized steel Bolt Carrier. This is where I expect accelerated wear to occur, seeing as how the Bolt Carrier has already worn away the "protective" CeraKote, which is hardly protective at all.

I will continue to criticize Lockhart's deliberate decision to NOT apply a mil-spec Type 5 Hard-Coat Anodizing to his alloy parts, in particular the Uppper and Lower Receivers. This is a definite long-term durabililty issue with the Raven rifles. Unlike JR Cox and the R18 MMk3 where end-user input is welcome, Samuel Lockhart is apparently not interested in user feedback, as he has fvcked me off twice now regarding his lack of anodizing....

Note the wear areas on the Receiver walls, adjacent to the Charging Handle Slot and Ejection Port - that is exposed Alloy! After less than 500 rounds, that counts as excessive wear to me. None of my high round-count AR Receivers look anything like my Raven Uppers with their exposed patches of unprotected, raw alloy.

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Isn’t Mil Spec anodizing type iii? I’ve never saw type 5.
 
IIRC MCXs legally were "restricted" as AR15 variants (technically they are not, but we have god blessed geniuses in RCMP lab that on gov request can make any .22 classified as AK variant). So, without proper legal overhaul the best we can hope is that Spears will be reverted to R category, which is always first to ban, first to confiscate.

"SIG MCX" and variants are based on the Colt AR-15/M16 design" -
  • Firearm Reference Number (FRN): 154618

SPEAR LT has Firearm Reference Number (FRN): 197417 and is variant of SIG MCX if I read Armalytics correctly.
 
nsxs said:
Depends how patient you are. If you can hold out, maybe try a shotgun or renting in the meantime, it'd probably be best to get clarity, but I was in your position 18 months ago.. Seemed like too long for me so I got an r18 mk2. Overall I like it, but pretty annoying maintenance wise for a first firearm and I often wish my 1st was something easier to maintain. Mk3 looks promising and much more appetizing at the price. Should be able to sell it as a worst case if all our dreams come true lol.

However, even if CPC wins, we'll need to consider if the reversals will just revert back. That would hurt the Canadian manufacturers, and while a lot would say who cares, there is something to be said about improving the economy and rights locally here (customers support the manufacturers, over time we hopefully get better products, those companies would support Canadian lobbies to bolster our rights, etc. vs if you buy American the profit's going out of country to support their economy and rights). Food for thought...
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Hmmm.... Yeah, it would sure hurt to have back the 85% of our sales, and the 61% of our staff who are no longer here... from only four years ago.

Please, tell me, an actual Canadian manufacturer, how bad a reversal is gonna hurt...
 
nsxs said:
However, even if CPC wins, we'll need to consider if the reversals will just revert back. That would hurt the Canadian manufacturers, and while a lot would say who cares, there is something to be said about improving the economy and rights locally here (customers support the manufacturers, over time we hopefully get better products, those companies would support Canadian lobbies to bolster our rights, etc. vs if you buy American the profit's going out of country to support their economy and rights). Food for thought...
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That is the worst of protectionism. The George Bush US 89 import ban was engineered by some US domestic manufacturers to stem the flow of oversea sporting arms into the US. The result is two decades of under supply and expensive firearms, and a complete jack up of prices! I remember Pre-89 US guns command a premium that most people couldn't afford. Only the rich could afford. It is called inflation created by intentional choking supply and guess what....the entire decade had nothing new coming out domestically because the quality was bad ( remember all these old bushmaster and DPMS that did not work, and Springfield just casted their receivers because people had zero alternatives) Then 94 AWB came in and the entire industry suffered until 2004 sunset.

Then It took another decade and a half for the supply chain to get a round to deal with the part counts, the forceful bastardization of import guns to incorporate US made parts.

No one should even think of this in Canada. This is absolutely terrible and self serving.
 
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True, but not impossible here. You only have to look at the CRTC, eggs and dairy to see how this country is wired.
 
Raven seems good. I have experience with Kodiak, BCL, Crusader and I have had nothing but issues. I’ve heard good things about Sterling but the owner is a bit sketchy, so I wouldn’t recommend.

Best to spend more and get a Tavor or Bren. Also I’ve shot the Kel Tec RDB and they are pretty solid, I would trust an RDB much more than any BCL, Crusader, or Kodiak.
 
Imo, the firearm issue will be way down, if not the last thing, to be addressed. Look what the last Conservative govt under Harper did. Only addressed P.A.L. issues a few weeks before the election. Don't hold your breath.
 
Armed Hippie said:
Raven seems good. I have experience with Kodiak, BCL, Crusader and I have had nothing but issues. I’ve heard good things about Sterling but the owner is a bit sketchy, so I wouldn’t recommend.

Best to spend more and get a Tavor or Bren. Also I’ve shot the Kel Tec RDB and they are pretty solid, I would trust an RDB much more than any BCL, Crusader, or Kodiak.
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Whats sketchy about the owner of sterling?
 
TBCX said:
Imo, the firearm issue will be way down, if not the last thing, to be addressed. Look what the last Conservative govt under Harper did. Only addressed P.A.L. issues a few weeks before the election. Don't hold your breath.
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Minority government in 2006 vs. on pace for massive majority in 2024/25. I think the political climate today versus then is very different, and there's actually a good argument to do the less popular things first, the furthest away from the next election.

That said, get it now cause at the absolute best we're at least a year away.
 
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