Rail Recommendation
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For me, it would depend on the scope. A lower quality scope, I would use a 20 moa so I am staying closer to the optical center of the scope most of the time. Lots of lenses degrade as one moves away from the center.
A high quality scope - 30, 40, 50, 60 moa, whatever the elevation dial can handle.
A high quality scope - 30, 40, 50, 60 moa, whatever the elevation dial can handle.
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- Nova Scotia
You can get Burris Signature zee rings with inserts.
You can try 20moa and if not enough go 30, without spending more on another mount.
You can try 20moa and if not enough go 30, without spending more on another mount.
Powdergun did not say what rifle he is looking to scope nor where he is price wise.
The MDT rails at Cabela's did not meet my needs when I was looking for a 20 MOA for an Anschutz.
Depending on whether Powsdergun needs rings for a 1 inch of 30 mm scope, there are a couple of problems.
The combinations for one inch works out that you can get over 40 MOA with 20's when your ring spacing is less tha 3.5".
With 30 mm, Burris has not gone to the expense of producing the wider variety of inserts they make for the one inch scopes.
However, with a 30 mm scope there will generally be more internal elevation available.
Generally not too much problem going from 100 metres to 200 metres where 20 - 25 MOA elevation change is required.
Going from l00 metre to 300 yards requires 40 MOA of elevation.
Just something to think about as we have witnessed all sorts of problems at our 100/200 Metre rimfire.
300 yards was abandoned as there were only a couple of guys willing to go to the extra expense.
I have aa Anschutz 0 MOA on the Anschutz 1710 with a Sightron SIII.
The 1712 has a Sightron SII thus the 20 MOA MDT rail but empties were falling back into the port. The grinder solved that issue.
The MDT rails at Cabela's did not meet my needs when I was looking for a 20 MOA for an Anschutz.
Depending on whether Powsdergun needs rings for a 1 inch of 30 mm scope, there are a couple of problems.
The combinations for one inch works out that you can get over 40 MOA with 20's when your ring spacing is less tha 3.5".
With 30 mm, Burris has not gone to the expense of producing the wider variety of inserts they make for the one inch scopes.
However, with a 30 mm scope there will generally be more internal elevation available.
Generally not too much problem going from 100 metres to 200 metres where 20 - 25 MOA elevation change is required.
Going from l00 metre to 300 yards requires 40 MOA of elevation.
Just something to think about as we have witnessed all sorts of problems at our 100/200 Metre rimfire.
300 yards was abandoned as there were only a couple of guys willing to go to the extra expense.
I have aa Anschutz 0 MOA on the Anschutz 1710 with a Sightron SIII.
The 1712 has a Sightron SII thus the 20 MOA MDT rail but empties were falling back into the port. The grinder solved that issue.
- Location
- Nova Scotia
This. My Anschutz with my Tasco 8-32, was 4" low from zeroing at 50Y. That required MOA base.
I hate how ranges West of Halifax are limited to 100M/Y
Rifle: Tikka T1X
Scope: Bushnell 3200 DOA
Rings: I have some Vortex lows pro series but will get other ones if needed.
Most likely will be plinking at 100 yards but would like to try 200 for fun. As for 300 yards most likely not as I have a 223 that I play with for that range. I decided that with the surge in price for components etc practicing with a decent 22 lr was a weeee bit more economical.
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- Nova Scotia
All you can do is try. And then go from there. Just put a big piece of cardboard so you can track drop.
A quick search for the 3200 DOA showed 3-9 and 4-12.
You can shoot at 100 with at 9X or 12 power. You will be able to keep track of your shots for five rounds but with a tighter group and 10 shots difficulty ensues.
The DOA will allow you to sight in at 50 (?) and then you can experiment with the various stadia in order to get elevation.
Another interesting application would be for Metallic Silhouette sighting in for chickens at 40 metres and then see if you get the right elevation using the stadia for elevation as you proceed through the pigs (60), turkeys (77) and rams at 100. The 3200 was the entry level hunting rifle scope so using the stadia for elevation has merit rather than using your turret for major changes. On one of my scopes, four revolutions are required to go from 100 m. to 200 m.
The Tikka is a fine rifle and it is very common at our 100 y/m events but the challenge will be to maintain your satisfaction as your expertise progresses.
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The Anschutz rail has three screws and the MDT has four and some of our shooters are very satisfied with the 419.
IIRC Cabela's had MDT rails for Savage and 10/22 in Rimfire.
Gee,. I'd drill correct holes for mounting . . .
As for the scope, I run Covenant-4 (discontd) 6-24x50 FFP-SF on my Sav B22 and CZ-455 and can keep under 1.5" at 100 with SK+ or RM. A 12x doesn't give much clarity at 100 and I advise an MOA or MIL scope instead of a DOA. I have a DOA on a hunting gun and that's fine but not best for '... hit small' .
As for the scope, I run Covenant-4 (discontd) 6-24x50 FFP-SF on my Sav B22 and CZ-455 and can keep under 1.5" at 100 with SK+ or RM. A 12x doesn't give much clarity at 100 and I advise an MOA or MIL scope instead of a DOA. I have a DOA on a hunting gun and that's fine but not best for '... hit small' .
That is what he has. Using a BDC or DOA does take some experimenting and analyzing while changing ammo to best your advantage.
Experimenting with a Burris FullField and a Sightron HHT (IIRC) and using a 100 yards target grid determined the MOA between each stadia. Not perfect but it is an option.
It is not a matter of just drilling holes as the curvature of the action is critical to the mount.
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- Nova Scotia
I'd just would use the factory holes to mount weaver bases and then run weaver Burris signature rings. Simple and fairly priced.
I know my setup, I cannot run a sunshade. So if I was to upgrade the scope, I'd go BKL dovetail to weaver adapters with my Burris rings.
I use these now. Only about 0.1" tall or so.
Ulightfire Low Profile Rail Adapter 11mm Dovetail to 20mm Weaver Picatinny Snap in Converter Rail Mount https://a.co/d/4DZRGx5
Ulightfire Low Profile Rail Adapter 11mm Dovetail to 20mm Weaver Picatinny Snap in Converter Rail Mount https://a.co/d/4DZRGx5
