Raven 9mm by Lockhart Tactical or Kriss Vector?
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Good reviews of Lockhart are few and far between.
They took $100+ from me for a "pre-order". Product never got made, got scolded through email asking for a refund, they won't return emails or calls now.
I'd avoid them like the plague unless you buy one you can hold
They took $100+ from me for a "pre-order". Product never got made, got scolded through email asking for a refund, they won't return emails or calls now.
I'd avoid them like the plague unless you buy one you can hold
I have a Kriss and it's been decent. Dependable feeding & ejection but they are an acquired taste looks and handling wise. The trigger is not as good as the AR style triggers that can be used on the FX-9, JR Carbine, etc. but aside from that I have been pretty happy with it.
The restricted Kriss Vector is pretty fun to shoot. The non restricted version is kind of "meh"
I wouldn't try to buy anything from Lockhart unless I could physically hold it in my hands prior to buying. And even then I would have doubts.
The Ruger 9mm PCCs have been very reliable and are accurate too.
I wouldn't try to buy anything from Lockhart unless I could physically hold it in my hands prior to buying. And even then I would have doubts.
The Ruger 9mm PCCs have been very reliable and are accurate too.
The NR Vector...I sold mine this past summer. it shot ok, but I found it a bit too heavy and bulky for me. I never liked the charging handle design, and while the aesthetics was interesting at first, it became more of a novelty over time that wore off quickly. I found the vectoring system on a 9mm really overrated. I will say that the best aspect of the gun were the built in flip sights which were absolutely fantastic, either by itself or co-witnessed. But in the end, for what I paid, I don't think I got full value on it from an enjoyment perspective, but that is very subjective, I know. That said, if/when my Restricted endorsement card ever comes in, I would be open to giving the short barreled KV a chance. The 18.6" NR...it just wasn't for me.
How is the Vector "proven"? I have quite a bit of time with them, the 9mm and .45 versions are not what I would consider highly reliable guns, the 10mm is likely no better. They are soft shooting and controllable but thats where my praise ends.
I guess the Canadian semi-auto may be better but that is not how something gets to be "proven". There are a lot of good options out there, the Vector and that gun that doesn't actually exist aren't among them.
I guess the Canadian semi-auto may be better but that is not how something gets to be "proven". There are a lot of good options out there, the Vector and that gun that doesn't actually exist aren't among them.
I agree with this completely. I could be wrong but when I had the Vector I remember the manual advising against using +P ammo as it causes significant wear and tear on the actions, etc. I found this really weird given what we all paid for this thing, that it is not rugged and solid enough to feed through a plethora of different ammunition types. Sure, the FX9 manual does not recommend aluminum ammo, but the FX9 is also much cheaper than the Vector. I would think anything that is considered proven would be able to run through a wide tolerance of ammo (ie. the X95 is proven - you can feed it anything, run it through very rough conditions, not clean it and it is still rock solid).
r34skyline
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That's a good question. I can't say I am an FX9 fan either but it's better than both. I haven't even held the Raven but I will #### on it anyway considering its association with Lockhart.
r34skyline
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Must you hurt me like this?
