RCMP and converted autos

Harper will not change the prohib status of firearms. He was advised to do so by a previous firearms advisory group. The opposition was all over it. He fired three members of the advisory group and stated that the prohibited status will not change.
 
Harper will not change the prohib status of firearms. He was advised to do so by a previous firearms advisory group. The opposition was all over it. He fired three members of the advisory group and stated that the prohibited status will not change.

Call it whatever status they want, the largest issue, amongst others is, not being able to shoot the 12X guns. And that IS fixable, if they wanted to. Status, last owner dies, etc etc still prevails, but not allowing owners to use their property strikes in the face of conservatism/property rights etc. They don't have to prohibit their use, but they choose to, and the "firearm representatives" are willing to not press the issue for the reasons I already stated. It's scummy by every person/group involved.

Oldest, most vetted, most conservative, law abiding individuals in this country, and we get screwed and sacrificed. I'm going to keep yelling it.
 
I heard from the RCMP today following a request for the transfer of a currently registered 12(3) MP44.
It was legally registered to me in Nov 2006---so there has already been one transfer when I bought it from the previous owner.

They require an inspection.
The RCMP provided a Purolator slip for shipment to Ottawa---at their cost.



Go figure?
 
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Seen and felt. They go mysteriously silent on this matter.

Ya dont have to be a big city homicide #### to figure it out.
We are a small enough minority and just like gun owners vs the general public, politicians weigh how much this minority will be either good or bad for them. CSSA as the political group figures its best for the majority to screw the little guys.
Our own worst enemies.
 
Why do you feel you are getting screwed by the CSSA?

It's the government and their servants doing the screwing...Tony and Co. have been trying to hold back the tide for lo these many years.
 
Why do you feel you are getting screwed by the CSSA?

It's the government and their servants doing the screwing...Tony and Co. have been trying to hold back the tide for lo these many years.

Screwed by the government of the day, and sacrificed by the "lobby groups".

I know, I know, "Good thing we were here, or you would have been really screwed". "So please send money".
 
Does anyone own a 12(3) MP44 that was originally purchased from Can-Am?

If so--- do you have a description of the modifications that they did to do the conversion from full auto to semi auto?

Thanks for any help.

 
When was there ever a list of alterations. Back in the day, when CAs were common as fleas, I never heard of, nor saw, such a list of alterations. I have never heard of such a list accompanying a gun.
 
Agreed. I know I had to submit the changes but I never kept it nor have I had a list of changes accompany any 12.3 that I have purchased. I have had several inspected by the RCMP and they have not provided me with a list of changes either. I'm sitting on 18 months and counting on my current purchase. Two letters to Blaney and nothing yet
 
I really suspect that this is a case of making up the rules as we go along, having done sloppy, incompetent work in the past.
 
When was there ever a list of alterations. Back in the day, when CAs were common as fleas, I never heard of, nor saw, such a list of alterations. I have never heard of such a list accompanying a gun.

Depending where you lived, during this whole new 12X debacle when implemented 1995, any CA was 'supposed' to be submitted for examination to the RCMP lab in order for a conversion report to be completed. I did. Therefore any CA I had in my possession at the time, approx. 20 guns, were held by police and the lab for approx. 2 years. I obtained conversion reports once I received them back.
Apparently some jurisdictions, did not submit the CA guns to the lab, and simply relied either on owner supplied conversion reports, or a "gunsmith" report, or simply what the "local registrar" wrote on the new registration submission when we had to re-register everything.
Appears now, anything that does not have a lab report is being called in for that purpose when they are changing ownership.

Prior to 1995/6 there was no formal written list of modifications to the individual gun. Simply it must function in the semi-automatic mode only, restricted or non-restricted alike. It was simple, the Criminal Code defined what and how the firearm must perform. Politicians and lab people feel these guns now take on a life unto themselves and become even more so evil and notorious.

Also appears not being able to take them out of the house is insufficient, but this new report is supposed to prevent the 7-11s from being hit as well.

I just got back my Long Branch Sten after exactly 3 years. No paper work/report was sent by the lab with it, therefore I don't know what they did, if anything. Ain't exactly rocket surgery figuring out a Sten. Selector welded in the SA position.

As I mentioned in my first post, 3 years to do any type of service would not be exactly acceptable performance by any private business standards. But having civilians in the governement lab probably doesn't have them accountable for their lack of any type of efficiency or productivity. Putting out a letter saying, "We're busy", just wouldn't cut it anywhere else.

Politics didn't dictate that these lab inspections must occur, the civilian lab people obviously made it an issue.

Saving Canada for all Canadians. I mean, think of the children.
 
I am just going to throw this out there and its just my thoughts, but being that most firearms were not registered proir to becoming prohibited in 92, I suspect the focus was just gettting them on paper and dealing with the ones not grandfathered. I know that those not grandfathered, once de milled had to be sent for inspection. A report was done on the deactivation. Futher, the semi auto versions IE 12.4 had to be sent in for inspection to confirmed that they were in fact not converted auto. I think the 12.3s were put on back burner during this time and are just now being processed upon transfered.
 
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Why do you feel you are getting screwed by the CSSA?

It's the government and their servants doing the screwing...Tony and Co. have been trying to hold back the tide for lo these many years.

I would like to know more precisely what successes or accomplishments that the CSSA and the NFA have achieved over the past number of years. I don't know that I'd count the elimination of the LGR among them. It was a huge expense which would not stand any sort of costs/benefits analysis. Quite frankly the best advocate that we ever had was Dave Tomlinson when he established and headed the NFA. I'm not opposed to either the CSSA or NFA, but I wonder just what they are achieving nowadays.
 
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