RCMP Pistol Trials
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BlackWatch
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Provincial or federal? All fed agencies carry 9mm. Those guys must be provincial. I was referring to federal DFO (don't think any provincial guys are called DFO dept of fisheries and oceans?) and federal environmental officers.
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DFO had the 5946 before the RCMP and were having issues prior to RCMP adoption, but RCMP was married to S&W (for whatever reasons) so they still went ahead and adopted it. Its not a bad gun except for the horrible trigger, but its a heavy gun for everyday carry.
It was defiantly DFO, I can not remember if the enviro guys were fed or not, it was a few years ago.
Shawn
First off the soldier deploys in a combat zone as well as is..well a soldier...much less likely to be subject to lawsuits and other liability concerns.
Further despite the soldier being young, inexperienced and underpaid.....they are entirely focused, well trained, disciplined.
The average police officer these days pretty much considers the weapon a 4lb inconvenience on their hip and are not highly trained "shooters".
As well they operate entirely in an environment where liability is paramount and situations where an AD would be very problematic.
The other issue front and centre for police vs military is that a cop is entirely likely more to use there weapon to cover and or scan for threats rather than actually discharge it.
You are correct in observing that the DAO and heavy trigger approach is counterintuitive to making hits....problem is it is buffered by the liability and consequence of an AD...as well as the reality of the amount of and focus of training a cop will receive both initially and as continuing education/practice.
This is not a bash of cops.....but the reality of the recruitment pool, the mindset of policing and public perception as well as the fiscal restraint inhibiting training.
The other argument against the 92 full size was that for those trying to be discreet, they had a choice - be discreet, or carry a gun, there's virtually no way to "plain clothes" a 92 .
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wayupnorth
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isnt the 5946 still listed as one of three pistols that NYPD can carry?
other than them i dont think anyone else uses the 5946.
Yup, all it took was for a RCMP Cst to be shot to death for them to change it.
...Well ,yes and no......The 5946 can be carried discretely, and I've certainly seen larger guns carried in the 'States. It all comes down to the choices of holster,clothing worn, and the physical size of the Officer. There's always the option of a"Fanny Pack"or a shoulder type bag, or even a briefcase. So really the size of the weapon although something to consider is not the be all and end all when selecting a weapon for general issue.....Even an MP5, with the stock folded, can be carried discreetly beneath an overcoat, along with a radio, handgun and cuffs!
......David KI alway thought the fact that it was difficult to mount a light on the 5946 was a drawback because I thought that was the direction law enforcement was heading. But I guess there are drawbacks to a light on a pistol like having to point your gun at anything you want illuminated or how it makes you a target.
When my dad was on ERT he was given a weapon light for his P226 but I don't know how common they were. The ERT guys also had their 5946's magazine disconnect safeties removed and they had a black finish.
When my dad was on ERT he was given a weapon light for his P226 but I don't know how common they were. The ERT guys also had their 5946's magazine disconnect safeties removed and they had a black finish.
