Re-barrel / Re-chamber a Ross 1905

ssapach said:
So what did you end up doing with yours, if you don't mind me askin?

Also, does anyone have any suggestions for places to order barrel blanks from in Canada? My understanding is that I can't simply order from the States and have it shipped up to me.
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I have a Bevan King .303 blank if you decide to keep the caliber. Otherwise I recommend Ron Smith of RKS. He makes the best damn barrels money can buy and is Canadian too. I know some of our site sponsors such as North Shore Barrels offer and can order in barrels. Another option if you are cheap is to use a takeoff barrel.
 
Thanks for this ssapach .
I think this should be made a sticky .
How many of us have Rosses that have worn out\rusted out barrels .
I have an old Atlas lathe but I know that I couldn't duplicate what you have done .....but am sure there are other machinists out there that could .
 
You could likely just use a .30 caliber take-off and go 30-40 Krag with no other mag or bolt mods required? Harold
 
Bevan King restored and rebarreled a Model 10 with one of his .311 barrels, chambered it with a properly ground reamer, many years ago. The rifle was honest junk when I got it. Here's what it looked like when I got it back.




Charlie Peeling restocked it. He was one of the best-kept secrets in Canada.



Charlie's brother is a member here, and posts as Kevan

Ted
 
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Why not? said:
Bevan King restored and rebarreled a Model 10 with one of his .311 barrels, chambered it with a properly ground reamer, many years ago. The rifle was honest junk when I got it. Here's what it looked like when I got it back.

Charlie Peeling restocked it. He was one of the best-kept secrets in Canada.

Charlie's brother is a member here, and posts as Kevan

Ted
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Very nice indeed and the lines of the stock suit the angularity of the action somehow. Could we see a few closeups please?

How far sub-MOA is it? ;)
 
ssapach said:
So what did you end up doing with yours, if you don't mind me askin?

Also, does anyone have any suggestions for places to order barrel blanks from in Canada? My understanding is that I can't simply order from the States and have it shipped up to me.
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mine is still sitting in the corner stripped down waiting for me to decide what its going to be......

I'm still thinking something between 6mm and 7mm

Waiting to see how your barrel threading work out ;)
 
That 1910 posted above looks pretty slick! I like that stock!

As far as my project goes, nothing good happening lately. I was attempting to make brass shotgun shells before this, and it got put on hold because of the Ross rifle. Everything gets put on hold for any work I need to do on vehicles though. Not enough time in a day or week.......even less now that I'm on 10/4 shifts again, not at home as much.

I will definitely keep posting updates as they happen though!
 
ssapach said:
before anyone speaks up, i know it's only aluminium and i am not going to fire any rounds through it. It's just a practice piece to see if i could actually do it.

Just happened to have the gears for 3 tpi. Ground a tool bit and gave it a try! ....
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Outstanding!
 
woodchopper said:
sweet mother of god.....

how did I miss this.

I have a 1905R sporter that destroys brass and the throat is several inches of free bore.

I was thinking of having Ron Smith do a rebore but if you can machine the 3 TPI left hand buttress threads....... Oh your my newest best friend...... :D
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I am in the same boat as Woodchopper. A 1905R sporter with a very poor bore and a passion for disfiguring brass. I would love a new barrel in the original 303 cal or 7x57 rimmed installed on my rifle. You are going to have a line-up at your door with CGN members and their Ross rifles.
Thanks for posting this. Truly impressive metal work.
 
Did a little messing around with my project this weekend, I have the 243 brass feeding and extracting pretty good now, ejection seems to work "ok" for now, but it seems to want to kick all the brass to the left of the rifle. I'm using full cartridges, so I'm not sure if it would maybe work better with just the empty brass?

My current fear is that the extractor may not grab on the brass well enough to yank it from the chamber once it's been fired, as it seems to be barely grabbing it as it is. Time will tell I guess.

The good news here is that if I can get the 243 to work well, 308 "should" work just as well.

Also, not to disappoint anyone, but I might be a ways off from making any barrels for anyone just yet. First off, I don't have a taper attachment for my lathe, so profiling a barrel blank won't be too pretty. Second, I'm not totally sure on my centering abilities when it comes time to machine an actual barrel blank. My spindle bore is only 5/8" also.....so everything has to be done from the chuck and a steady rest. Then of course, the time. I always run out of time and get side tracked with other things on the go.

And I lost one of the trigger springs from one of my 1905's. Not that it affects anything right now, I'm just sad and annoyed by that is all.
 
Too bad your not into hand loading. If you can do that mating you are certainly more than capable. When I was a youngster I used to visit Elwood Epps old strs and Carlie Parkinson and looked at the rifles they made up. Epps did a lot on the 303 case. I know he made 6.5x303 and very sure he also made the 25x303 and 6mm by 303. You can get a perturbed barrel from different manufactures and have real cool quarter bore. I wouldn't be surprised if his original reamers might still be in existence although I don't know what shape they are in but new ones can be purchased. I imagine one of you buddies would do the loading. Hell I would under your supervision just for the enjoyment. You buy components.

Neil
 
Neil,

I well remember both Charlie Parkinson and Elwood Epps. Charlie sold me my first big game rifle, a Savage 340 30-30, and my second, a Savage 110 270, and my third a Husqvarna Model 5000 Husky 270. Elwood rechambered my first 303 Epps, a Long Branch, which I loaded under his direction full to the brim with surplus H4831, which was then crushed in seating both 180 and 215 gr bullets.

Marg and I hunted moose with Elwood and Isabelle out of Matatchewan, both ladies carrying custom 7X57 rfiles. Charlie was the one who turned me on to groundhog hunting.

Those were the halcyon days of youth and learning, my friends.

With apology for the brief hijack.
Ted
 
Ok, so Last time I was home I gave the chamber reamers a try on a piece of scrap steel.

I think I'm ready to take the plunge on my .243 barrel now, but I have a slight dilemma. My lathe's spindle bore isn't large enough to get the barrel far enough through the spindle to centre it from the backside of the headstock. So is my only option to centre the barrel in the 4 jaw chuck and use the steady rest on the chamber end? The only issue I have is that (from reading online) some people say that the barrel bore might not be truly centred to the outside of the barrel. Therefore the bore won't be truly centred if I dial it in with the 4 jaw chuck......and may result in less accuracy when reaming the chamber.

I thought that since the reamer was piloted and head with a floating toolholder that it should help keep itself centred to the bore of the barrel.

Any thoughts or advice here?
 
If you use a piloted center drill on the chamber end of the barrel then true up the shank between centers then you should be ok especially if you use a floating reamer holder.
 
Thanks for the response!

I must keep in mind that this isn't a target rifle, it's also my first attempt at chambering a barrel or re-barreling a rifle of any kind. So not to be hard on myself, but for a first go I shouldn't exactly expect to be perfect.

Hope to give it a whirl this weekend if I can get something set up for cutting fluid flow through the barrel from the muzzel.
 
oh I'm very ineterested in how it works out.


I was playing around with making my own chamber reamers, but I'm no where near ready to chamber a good barrel with one :)

I just want to get my old ross shootable
 
And so the struggle begins.....

Don't be surprised if I can't get this 243 barrel blank to work. I'm off to a terrible start with the threading so far.

The full length barrel is a bit of a different animal than the short and thick practice pieces I was doing, that's for sure.

Patience, hopefully I can get through this one.....even if it means threading by turning the chuck by hand.
 
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