re-register AR15 lower after assembly?
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If you get stopped and checked by a traffic cop who is inquisitive enough to observe you have a uncoupled AR that is under the 30 days, wink wink which the particulars are written down in his note pad, you will be contacted by the CFO.
That's my take on it....and I'm on my 4th AR.
If it's not a complete firearm then no need to re-register it until it is fully capable of discharge and you are able to provide barrel length and caliber if asked.
Now if you have a complete upper kicking around, I think it would be wise to re-register your lower with that upper just to avoid any issues!!!
But...hey I will make a call mañana and go over all the options to make sure.
It is very possible we are over thinking this, or wrong! I can admit I'm wrong....just want us to get it right here.
what?
barrel is on the upper
what does that have to do with the lower? or any manufacturer?
AR's are cutom built more often than not
just because you used (lets say a colt upper) doesn't mean there is a colt barrel on it
they don't ask what make the barrel is and its non of their business.
all they want to know is the make/model of lower ser # and barrel length on your upper
if you don't have one and just have a completed lower only and they still want a barrel length give them a random length who cares what it is
than once you actually have your barrel call again and say you want to change the length to what you got..
dealing with these people is hard not any 2 cfo will give you the same answer
ask me how I know
you are WRONG
you should know this if you are on your 4 AR
the lower is considered the GUN
period
if the lower is complete that means it can drop onto an AR upper and discharge ammo
just because you don't have possession of a barrel (completed upper) doesn't mean someone that steels it (your lower) or maybe your buddy or your dad ect wont have one....
bottom line is you have a working gun at that point in the laws eyes
weather you agree with that or not doesn't matter hahaha that's the way it is.
you should know this if you are on your 4 AR
the lower is considered the GUN
period
if the lower is complete that means it can drop onto an AR upper and discharge ammo
just because you don't have possession of a barrel (completed upper) doesn't mean someone that steels it (your lower) or maybe your buddy or your dad ect wont have one....
bottom line is you have a working gun at that point in the laws eyes
weather you agree with that or not doesn't matter hahaha that's the way it is.
Your making work for yourself.
And giving them a BS barrel length when you don't have one, IMO, is not the way to go and is answering the question that if you don't have an upper, it ain't complete, therefore call it in when you have one. Why lie?
Heehee, ya, but I can't re-register it either without barrel/caliber
Best of luck...
Sure, it was designed to have those parts added, and is in fact the entire intent, so how can it not be capable right from day 1? I'd agree if it required milling or some other actual changes or modifications to the *receiver*...as it is, we're comparing a receiver to a lower assembly. The wording on my cert says nothing of creating any sort of assembly, referencing the receiver/frame only.
In light of that argument, maybe the frame/receiver class shouldn't exist at all
We need to be hashing this one out over beers
If the brand of lower, regardless of upper or barrel make, doesn't build a complete rifle of the barrel length you are calling about they will send the info the lab.
I agree that ever CFO and Province may handle it differently so that is why it's important to ask for their name.
it is complete
a lower is capable of discharging ammo weather it be on someone elses upper or yours the CFO doesn't not give two sh!tz
at that point its a GUN
feel free to read the regs online on the RCMP site and prove me wrong
good luck I await your response with quotes.
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the issue was that he doesn't not have a barrel yet so nothing to report for length when asked when re regging the lower from a receiver to completed lower
I will respectfully disagree because the "gun" is already registered when purchased and not then it is capable of discharging ammo with a barrel it will be required to be re registered. That is why the CFO asked about a barrel length and will politely insist you call back when you purchase a barrel regardless of completing the lower. In their eyes a stripped and completed lower are identical until an upper has been mated to it.
Again it's prudent to call your particular CFO
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Sure, it was designed to have those parts added, and is in fact the entire intent, so how can it not be capable right from day 1? I'd agree if it required milling or some other actual changes or modifications to the *receiver*...as it is, we're comparing a receiver to a lower assembly. The wording on my cert says nothing of creating any sort of assembly, referencing the receiver/frame only.
In light of that argument, maybe the frame/receiver class shouldn't exist at all
We need to be hashing this one out over beers
Except two things:
1) law does not say what it could be if you add a bunch of other parts its says modify. Which adding parts is whether or not you like it
2) your argument is based on of your wishful thinking and not supported by the law, or any definition of what any of terms used in the law
I am sorry but that is the way it is
Shawn
Burt Macklin FBI
Regular
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- Ontario, GTA
So if I build my sfrc lower receiver and they don't make an upper to claim a barrel length, what does it get re-registered as?
It can and will be registered to the barrel you inform them of, however you will be transferred to the lab and asked more questions. If it's not on the FRT you will be waiting until the lab does some research.
I had the lab ask me where I have purchased my barrels and they followed up by calling the US fabricator.
Eg:
1) I completed an NEA lower and upper with a 20" 6.8 SPC and was transferred to the lab after the CFO could not locate this setup from NEA on the FRT. busted..........now I must wait for the lab to complete their research.
2) completed a Midway Industry receiver set with a 16" ARP barrel .30 HAR which the nice lady could not find on the FRT. busted.............transferred to the lab and needed to wait for 1 year to have it re-registered.
3) completed an Armalite lower with a Aero Precision upper and a 14.5" 5.56 barrel. The nice lady quickly responded that the registration checked out and I would receive the certificate in the mail. My Spikes, Aero Precision and a couple of others went this smoothly.
I am prepared to be waiting on a long delay with my current .277 WLV build on new Aero receivers.
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If you are planning to shoot it, you need an upper...so what is the calibre/ barrel length of the upper you are going to mate it with?
Burt Macklin FBI
Regular
- Location
- Ontario, GTA
No no, I get that. It was more inquiring what the process would be for that scenario...call lab, wait forever. Got it
