Real German K98 Sniper scope and mount? - EDIT DEC 19 - NEW PICS!
- Thread starter drache
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Congrats drache, I think you did very well. Build a prewar or 20's/30's classic hunting rifle on a period German commercial mauser or Gew 98 and you'll be good to go for next deer season.
You could wear Lederhosen, and a funny hat with a feather; then after you tag out have some Jägerschnitzel und spaetzle, red cabbage and a dark Erdinger Weissbier. Mind those Frauleins though...
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So is there any way to find the part I'm missing? The part that attaches to the rifle itself?
Be aware there is a blizzard going on!
The scope is 100% clear and crisp. Just not easy trying to take a picture of it
Be aware there is a blizzard going on!
The scope is 100% clear and crisp. Just not easy trying to take a picture of it
Can't see the engraved number in here but it is 4761
Stamped into the mount, one is 581 and the other 589. One mount was cannibalized to save another
Here is the "8.." stamped into one of the "arms"
3-1/3 magnification
4-1/2 magnification
5-2/3 magnification (kind of precise isn't it?)
The elevation knob. No way to tell which is up or down by looking at the dial.
"8." on the other "arm" compared to "8.." on the other
Stamped into the mount, one is 581 and the other 589. One mount was cannibalized to save another
Here is the "8.." stamped into one of the "arms"
3-1/3 magnification
4-1/2 magnification
5-2/3 magnification (kind of precise isn't it?)
The elevation knob. No way to tell which is up or down by looking at the dial.
"8." on the other "arm" compared to "8.." on the other
it will be cheaper to have the base made.So toss out the mount and buy a new reproduction then
I'm convinced: Jaeger mount. Must be a late one from the rougher finish, or maybe someone had a go at it sometime.
The dial on the range knob with three locking screws is the type that became common in WWI, but the fact that you see it on this scope just indicates it was adopted for some sporting scopes as well between the wars.
Still one of the best reticules out there, especially for low light, and moving reticules show you as soon as you look through the scope if the reticule is not where it should be.
The dial on the range knob with three locking screws is the type that became common in WWI, but the fact that you see it on this scope just indicates it was adopted for some sporting scopes as well between the wars.
Still one of the best reticules out there, especially for low light, and moving reticules show you as soon as you look through the scope if the reticule is not where it should be.
Now there were several Commercial Hunting rifles used as Sniper Rifles by the Germans during WWII. Sports Afield magazine had an interesting story of such a rifle in their Sept/Oct issue. One brother captured it and mailed it home before being killed in the final stages of the war. The other brother made it home safe and used all his buy out pay to upgrade the rifle through a now very famous gun smith. The rifle is still in use - an interesting Bubba story to say the least.
How did no one pick this up before on figuring out a rough build date for the scope?
D.R.P. was a designation for Deutsches Reichspatent. This marking was supposedly only used on items patented from 1877 to 1945.
D.R.P. was a designation for Deutsches Reichspatent. This marking was supposedly only used on items patented from 1877 to 1945.
The meaning of D.R.P. is mentioned in several posts on the web - are you saying you just found this out?
And what are you going to do with this info - try to find out when the patent was made? If you do then lets us all know how you did it.
Yes I did just find out with DRP stands for.
The point I was trying to make is people kept saying this scope was made after WWII. Being stamped DRP from what I'm told places the build date before 1945 as after that they weren't stamped with the DRP.
drache I believe it was said by many that this is a pre WW2 scope, myself included. In fact my post referencing Carl Zeiss definitely indicates that variable hunting scopes were available in the early 1920s. That Goerz was bought by Zeiss in the later 1920s or 30s would approximately date your scope to the same time period.
Good luck if you want to narrow its date of manufacture by its Deutches Reich patent number. Theoretically I suppose it could be done but in practical terms it would depend if records still exist and how much effort you want to go to.
Good luck if you want to narrow its date of manufacture by its Deutches Reich patent number. Theoretically I suppose it could be done but in practical terms it would depend if records still exist and how much effort you want to go to.
Yes. But there are still a couple swearing the scope was made post WWII and that everyone who states otherwise is wrong. It was posted for their benefit.
You were the correct one to be able to show the proof that it was Pre-war.
Between 1926 and 1929 Zeiss did buy the controlling share of Goerz. But Goerz was still building under their own name into WWII. My research shows it was sometime towards the end of WWII that Zeiss ordered Goerz and the other companies they had controlling stock in to stop producing lenses.
That would be near impossible although I did find a Deutsches Reich patent for a Georz set of binoculars during my research. Granted I can't seem to find it again.
