Recoil Pad's bipods questions

btw, what exactly is a flinch? Just before you pull the trigger you close your eyes or something?
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Ya, that and tending to tense up and jerk the trigger in anticipation of getting punished when the trigger goes off. There's no chance of shooting with much accuracey if you have a "flinch". I've seen guys with a bad case of this. One fellow was shooting some old crap ammo with a .308 at our club and one round misfired. I happened to be watching him and at the pull of the trigger his muzzle jumped up about 6" not from recoil obviously but from his flinch. Its good to practice dry firing once in a while (no ammo) just to see what the cross hairs do when you pull the trigger. Hopefully they'll stay rock solid on target and not jump around when you pull the trigger.

You were asking about bipods back there 'cornflakes'. :D Where TF does REDDsky get these nicknames, I tell ya... Anyoo they're kind of cool for use at the range or probably for shooting gophers or other hunting in wide open spaces where your going to be set up in the same spot for a long time. For deer hunting IMHO they're just in the way and a PITA to lug through bush and of no real use. I don't own a bipod but have thought about buying one just for fun at the range etc. No the good hunting rig for the Ontario woods I wouldn't think and certainly not for out here in the rainforest....
 
Easiest way out of a flinch really does have to do with your girlfriend. Have her "load" yopur rifle for you, and randomly either put a round in or leave it out without you looking. Convince yourself that there is NEVER a loaded round in the chamber when you S Q U E E Z E the trigger until the hammer drops as a surprise. You will both know when you flinched. :) The rifle will reflect what is behind the trigger -- a jerk! ;)

Get the recoil pad installed, and try out some 150's for the first little while. Use an empty case and dry fire a lot. It helps.

And don't let BIGRED anywhere near your girlfriend.
 
S Q U E E Z E the trigger until the hammer drops as a surprise].
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This is all you need to know. When properly letting off the trigger it should break as a bit of a surprise to you. But it takes years to master it.:confused:

Sage advice from the Preacher, especially about BIGREDD :)
 
The only reason why I wanted a bipod is so I could steady out some of my shots while practising some shots since I go all over the place.

Next time I go shooting with the 22 I will try everything mentioned here. I didn't know you were suppost to pull the trigger slow and it's kinda suppose to be a suprise. I will try that out and let you guys know how it works out.

As for the recoil pad, I bought one lastnight and next time I am shooting, hopefully it won't hurt as much.

For ammo, I was looking at some reduced recoil from Remington but there was also some other target ammo I saw at Lebarons that was like 120 grain or something. Those Winchester 150 silvertips felt as strong at the 180 grain Federals but I never noticed a differance when I changed bullets, I just noticed a difference when shooting in differant positions. I am going to make myself a bench and see what I can do next time I am out

I don't think I have the flinch yet but I did notice I do close my eyes once I hear that bang even with the 22. I am not sure if thats normal or not. I don't see my muzzle moving much after I shoot but then again I am not watching myself shoot.


Thanks all
 
Salty said:
This is all you need to know. When properly letting off the trigger it should break as a bit of a surprise to you. But it takes years to master it.:confused:

Sage advice from the Preacher, especially about BIGREDD :)
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Yeah. It's a surprise, then "ow, f*ck!"

I find I get pissed off at my gun for going off 'unexpectedly.' It's an odd sensation - state of mind, really - I can't really describe it. It's easier to develop flinch-free shooting habits if you start small and work up to the bigger stuff.
 
cereal83,

Also, it really helps to cut down on the noise level and whatnot to wear a good set of shooting muffs on your ears, and a pair of safety glasses on your eyes. Safer too. That way, the sound doesn't hurt you and make you think that the rifle is going to kill you.

Join a club and get some advice from some of the older guys, like I said before. Not that the younger guys don't have any smarts. Lots of 'em do, but we tend to gravitate towards our own age group, and that usually doesn't help much.

And NEVER, I said N E V E R shoot until it starts to hurt. My 405 Winchester shooting rhino busters :) rocks you real good off the bench, and I can watch my groups start to open up after about 6 shots. I am resolved not to shoot more than 2 three shot groups on any given day.

Remember S Q U E E Z E the trigger. T U C K the rifle in. W E A R hearing and eye protection. And most of all,
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Watch out for BIGREDD. :p
 
Cereal is this your first rifle? I too was a bit of a flincher with a 30 cal. I was advised to get a 25-06, so I did. I also wear ear plugs and muffs at the range. I put a Limb saver pad on the gun and with that combo the crack of any rifle firing doesn't bother me now. If you are all bruised up, you must not be pulling the rifle into your shoulder properly. There are a number of calibers that recoil far less than 30-06,like 257 roberts, 25-06,260 rem,7mm-08, 6.5x55, 7x57, all of which will kill a deer,and be much more pleasurable to shoot at the range.FS
 
Another caliber that Fassteel didn't mention is 7.62x39 (.30-30 is also ballistically very similar). The recoil from this round is negligible, more of a gentle push than a punch in the mouth :D Same with .30-30 Win. The ballistics aren't good for anything (accuracy or power-wise) past 150-200 yards, but if you're not concerned about that then it may be perfect for you. The advantage goes to 7.62x39 IMHO, simply due to the availability (and lower cost) of ammo for practice. There are also LOTS of rifles chambered for this round, the SKS being the most common and cheapest. If you're not interested in an SKS, it just so happens that NEF offers single-shot Handi Rifles in 7.62x39 this year ;) On the other side of the fence, Winchester Model 94's are beautiful rifles and will last a lifetime, and can be had for roughly the same price as your Savage 111. So yeah, another option to consider :cool:
 
Yes this is my first rifle. I also wear ear protection that is like 24 db lower or something. With it on, I hear the shot but not nearly as loud. My first shot was without the ear protection and that was loud. I was scared for my life next to the recoil so never again. I also always wear eye protection.

I bought a Limbsaver on monday and when I get it, I will have it installed and hopefully it will be good enough. On a few shots, I was pulling in the rifle as close to me as possible but on 1 shot, I did leave it about 2 inches away from me and that knocked the wind out of me.

I am keeping my 30-06 and I was thinking of buying another rifle but I will just learn to get good with the 22 first, then the 30-06 and then I will go from there. I think I just need more practice and I will be ok. I never really shot a gun before last weekend and just the sound of the guns amazed me.

Thanks


Here is a pic of me with my ear protection shooting my 22 Yes I know I wasn't wearing glasses.
 
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X2 for the Kick eze. also a cheap scope does not offer very much eye relief which can make things hairy. More years ago than I'll admit, our Sergeant in the militia showed us a good dry fire excercise, put a dime on the end of your barrel and slowly squeeze the trigger. It should stay on.
 
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...put a dime on the end of your barrel and slowly squeeze the trigger. It should stay on.
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Sounds like a good trick, I'ma try it myself and see how I do :D I'm guessing you mean balancing the dime widthwise on the curved top surface of the barrel, not edgewise (if you can do that, you're a better man than I!!)? I'm wondering though, how do you get the dime balanced on there if you don't have someone to help you out? This could be interesting...

In other news, what about a lead sled or one of those plastic adjustable bench rests, like this one;
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I was thinkin' of one for myself, to be honest :redface: Maybe overkill for cereal83 at this point, but something to think about for the future (if you get caught up in the pursuit of accuracy, as so many tend to do ;)) Anyways, anyone have experience with these things? Honestly it looks like a Tonka toy to me, like something that belongs in my kid's sandbox, but I've never seen one in person or used one so I'm interested in any practical experience with this or a similar product :cool:

Note; Not intended to be a thread hijack!!
 
They partner you up so your "coach" lays the dime flat on the end of the barrel. Humbling at first but soon smoothes you out.
 
I was also thinking of gettng on of those gun vices so I can accually sight my gun in properly. I don't think it would be an overkill unless I never used it.

Well I did buy a limbsaver and I got it in the mail already. I just have to get it installed.

I went out last weekend again and the recoil wasn't bad at all. After a whole afternoon of shooting, my arm was not hurting at all which is good
 
cereal83 said:
I was also thinking of gettng on of those gun vices so I can accually sight my gun in properly. I don't think it would be an overkill unless I never used it.

Well I did buy a limbsaver and I got it in the mail already. I just have to get it installed.
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the recoil pad is an easy install and just do the final form/fitting with a bench grinder
 
I saw it's only 2 screws for the pad but as for the fitting, I don't have a bench grinder or anything even close to it so I guess I am SOL
 
cereal83 said:
I saw it's only 2 screws for the pad but as for the fitting, I don't have a bench grinder or anything even close to it so I guess I am SOL
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attach the pafd and see how much you need to trim if its only a hair too big then live with it or use a dremal tool, drill with dremal bit, angle grinder, or plain old sand paper and a sanding block*can be found in most general stores like wal-mart for under $5 total* if its alot to bigg use same method only more time LOL
 
There is about an inch all around the whole pad that needs to be trimmed. I don't have any tools to do this which sucks because I would rather save the money and spend it on bullets.
sucks
 
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