Recoil Problems
- Thread starter chopper charlie
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
I disagree. Chopper Charlie shows great courage by not allowing his disability prevent him from living life as he chooses. If he is physically able to shoot a rifle effectively, and he has some pals to help him with the bull work, then power to him. Not everyone wants to crawl in a corner and die when life gets a little inconvenient.
I would also have to suggest the 260 rem. I use a 7-08 myself but the recoil of the 260 is what I am considering to get my wife into deer hunting.. She is 4 foot thirteen and the recoil from the 7-08 is to much for her. She likes the 243 but the one I have likes the 85 grains and I like a 100 grain bullet for deer if I have to use the 6mm.
I don't fully agree with you either. I don't believe in waiting to die, but have you read this post fully??
If a family member of mine was this unsafe, I wouldn't be handing them a gun.
How are those new Fusion cartridges? I pretty much only shoot pistols so i dont get to much Rifle time, but arent those new Fusion by Federal is it? Im not sure the brand but I saw a show that pretty much described these fusion cartridges give big stopping power with good distance without the punch. I think the caliber was .300 Fusion or something where it had qualities of the 303 I believe but felt like a .223 or something like that. Someone here surely knows the exacts and seeing i didn't read all the posts, someone might have already mentioned it. 
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
CC appears to be able to make his own decisions. It sounds like he shoots from a rest in a blind of some description, and gets help with the heavy lifting. He seems to overstate the safety stuff, probably to ensure those reading his post that he is not a hazard to other hunters. Sounds like a single shot rifle is a good choice for him - I don't quite get the stuff about his accident, but he apparently has decided on equipment that he can manage. If an individual can continue to lead a fulfilling life style after a debilitating injury or illness I'm all for him.
I agree full heartedly
i think there are some here that are little full of themselves & are trying to impress someone
Remember that what he <seems> to be concerned about is not shoulder bruises from recoil, or developing a flinch but rather his whole body snapping backwards while his head snaps forward, since this is what happens during recoil. He has an existing neck injury, so any jolt like that may make him a quadraplegic instantly (if it doesn't just plain kill him on the spot), if I was in his shoes, I'd be very much concerned too. I'd say 1: install the most effective muzzle brakes you can afford on every firearm you own and 2: get one of those portable rests that has a strap that goes behind the buttplate, that effectively isolates your body from the rifle, the bench takes the hit so to speak. I know "case-guard" makes one such portable rest, but I honestly don't know how effective they are since I don't own one. I know a little bit more than most regarding medular injuries, since my own condition is very similar, I'm one of the lucky ones though, as (almost) everything above the belly button is unaffected. I do have some mild form of myelomeningoselis (sp?) that comes with my condition so every once in awhile if I sneeze or laugh too hard or strain too hard or get a strong jolt the rachidian canal(sp? I'm trying to translate French terms and I really don't know what it is in English) will effectively get shut, the pressure builds in the fluids around my brain/spinal cord get a pressure spike and I end up with the sort of instant headache that feels like you head is going to split open, eyes roll behind my head and I damned near pass out, again, I'm one of the lucky ones since the condition is not severe enough to require shunts ...
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I agree it's a very heartless thing to say, but not brainless. CC make sure that you can do this hunting thing properly.
It sounds like you go thru some pains to make sure your hunt is as safe as possible. Good on ya.
- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
Shot was 85 yards. Bullet entered near the spine, and lodged in the offside shoulder. Penetration about 17"
The bullet I used was a standard Hornady interlock. Loaded to a full grain below max. I'm guessing it was W748, but it could have been H4895.
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- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
If I were in your condition, or even worse, I'd find some way to go hunting. Go for it, and good luck.
Picking a Caliber for a Shooter With a Spinal Injury
I think you have it together CC. I also have a spinal injury to the lower back and chronic pain so I have the same concerns about recoil. From what I have read from your posts you are probably more concerned about safety than some of the guys that are out there during hunting season. Do you cut back on your medications during hunting to keep you alert. If the drugs are making your judgement questionable you are probably taking too much. I moniter mine so it just takes the edge off the pain, and that's it.
I had a gun that you would have liked a Remington Classic in 6.5X55 that went to Nfld. I use 7mm's and I like the Ruger No1 in 7X57, and a Remington 700 BDL with a 7mm08 22" barrel. The 7mm08 is liter but I don't have a recoil pad on mine. The new softer recoil cartridges are the answer along with a good recoil pad and a padded jacket you shouldn't feel a thing.
The Ruger No 1 and the Browning 78 would be an excellent choice, the Browning has an exposed hammer and is a single shot, the Ruger doesn't have an exposed hammer but it is a single shot. You could just have a hunting rifle custom built for you, you pick the action, caliber, recoil reducer, and the correct length. Beats buying and selling at a loss. Besides it beats having your wife throwing away thousands of dollars on horses and not getting a red cent back. The d*m horse got rode more than me.
I love my guns and that's the only thing I have that keeps me going. I have a number of other health problems and they would have made my life H*ll but I don't focus on them. I look forward to finding something new every day, trading for new guns is a life saver, since I have a small pension that got cut by 25% last week.
Good Hunting CC, and I want to see some pictures of this years trophy
Albayo
I think you have it together CC. I also have a spinal injury to the lower back and chronic pain so I have the same concerns about recoil. From what I have read from your posts you are probably more concerned about safety than some of the guys that are out there during hunting season. Do you cut back on your medications during hunting to keep you alert. If the drugs are making your judgement questionable you are probably taking too much. I moniter mine so it just takes the edge off the pain, and that's it.
I had a gun that you would have liked a Remington Classic in 6.5X55 that went to Nfld. I use 7mm's and I like the Ruger No1 in 7X57, and a Remington 700 BDL with a 7mm08 22" barrel. The 7mm08 is liter but I don't have a recoil pad on mine. The new softer recoil cartridges are the answer along with a good recoil pad and a padded jacket you shouldn't feel a thing.
The Ruger No 1 and the Browning 78 would be an excellent choice, the Browning has an exposed hammer and is a single shot, the Ruger doesn't have an exposed hammer but it is a single shot. You could just have a hunting rifle custom built for you, you pick the action, caliber, recoil reducer, and the correct length. Beats buying and selling at a loss. Besides it beats having your wife throwing away thousands of dollars on horses and not getting a red cent back. The d*m horse got rode more than me.
I love my guns and that's the only thing I have that keeps me going. I have a number of other health problems and they would have made my life H*ll but I don't focus on them. I look forward to finding something new every day, trading for new guns is a life saver, since I have a small pension that got cut by 25% last week.
Good Hunting CC, and I want to see some pictures of this years trophy
Albayo
'Charlie,
I have friend up here who gave his wife a Husqvarna 6.5X55 about twenty years ago. It is very accurate and she shoots 140 gr Nosler partitions in it for everything. The recoil is noticeably less than her 30-30 Model 94, and much much less than her 308 Ruger Model 77.
I have been present when she has shot our big mountain caribou bulls and really big moose. I cannot remember her ever using more than two shots on any animal.
The 30-30 and the 308 pretty much stay at home since she got the 6.5X55, because the little Swede is both easy to carry and shoot, and puts game down very effectively.
The Husqvarna could easily be used as a single shot. You could even block the mag by removing the follower spring and replacing it with about half a cents-worth of Ensolite or other non-rigid foam.
If you want to give the 6.5X55 a try, there is probably someone not too far from you who has one. I will be glad to send you a box of bullets and some brass. Just get a friend to load them up for you and go.
Best,
Ted
I have friend up here who gave his wife a Husqvarna 6.5X55 about twenty years ago. It is very accurate and she shoots 140 gr Nosler partitions in it for everything. The recoil is noticeably less than her 30-30 Model 94, and much much less than her 308 Ruger Model 77.
I have been present when she has shot our big mountain caribou bulls and really big moose. I cannot remember her ever using more than two shots on any animal.
The 30-30 and the 308 pretty much stay at home since she got the 6.5X55, because the little Swede is both easy to carry and shoot, and puts game down very effectively.
The Husqvarna could easily be used as a single shot. You could even block the mag by removing the follower spring and replacing it with about half a cents-worth of Ensolite or other non-rigid foam.
If you want to give the 6.5X55 a try, there is probably someone not too far from you who has one. I will be glad to send you a box of bullets and some brass. Just get a friend to load them up for you and go.
Best,
Ted
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- The Conservative part of Ontario
My 6.5X55 has been a great deer cartridge for me too. I never got the chance to try it on moose, but I'm sure that millions of dead Swedish moose can't be wrong. It is a light recoiling cartridge, depending on the rifle, comparable to the 30-30 in that department.
Light recoil
I would like to mention one thing about Mausers you have to leave the mag alone even if you want to make a it a single shot. You can't just drop a round into the chamber and close the bolt, the extractor won't snap over the rim of the cartridge the round has to feed from the mag. Newer firearms don't have that problem. Just something to think about when you decide on a future purchase of a firearm to suit your needs.
I would like to mention one thing about Mausers you have to leave the mag alone even if you want to make a it a single shot. You can't just drop a round into the chamber and close the bolt, the extractor won't snap over the rim of the cartridge the round has to feed from the mag. Newer firearms don't have that problem. Just something to think about when you decide on a future purchase of a firearm to suit your needs.
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
Maybe hunt with a "second", a buddy who can sit with you and coach you through.
I know a few blind hunters who bowhunt like this.
Also, ever considered some sort of rest for the rifle, attqched to a chir?
Some smaller calibers and cases are very good killers if used properly, the 6mm Remington for one.
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