Recommend me a steel hammer fired pistol....Please
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easyrider604
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I agree with Josquin. A 1911 could be a good fit for the OP’s needs. Ergonomically similar to the FNS9L, so transition when shooting these two pistols is quick.
Availability of 10 round mags means there is no capacity disadvantage with a 1911 platform in 9mm.
You’ll never run out of parts and accessories for a 1911. A huge bonus is the ability to obtain a fine crisp trigger.
Availability of 10 round mags means there is no capacity disadvantage with a 1911 platform in 9mm.
You’ll never run out of parts and accessories for a 1911. A huge bonus is the ability to obtain a fine crisp trigger.
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Vote for the CZ85 based on the current used prices and over-all shootabilty/quality. If you have big (wide) hands, it may feel a little lost in your grip. Why no plastic?
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I own an SP-01, a Jericho 941 full size steel and a Norc NZ 85. All shoot great and eat any ammo so far. Can't go wrong with any of them. The SA pull is comparable among the 3. The Norc is probably the best. Only because its been tuned. There's a considerable difference in the DA between the SP-01 and the 941. The 941 being quite a bit heavier. The 941 shoots a little low as well. Seems to be common from what I've read.
If you are down to the 75B or the SP-01 Shadow the the Shadow wins on almost all levels. The trigger groups are virtually identical but the clean up will be more on the 75B. Note in the last year I picked up a virtually new Shadow and noticed the trigger was not the trigger my original Shadow had so, I would not be surprised of the Shadow you get will come with a very nice but not excellent trigger. It can be made excellent though with a little TLC.
The 85 Combat is an excellent pistol but it's dual slide release is prone to break. I had an early one that finally broke after a zillion rounds but some IPSC shooters I know have told me theirs broke after much fewer rounds.
The 92FS Beretta comes in many iterations. It is an excellent pistol in every respect. Go to youtube and watch some of Langdon's videos. Unlike some polymer guns, the gun is virtually impossible to limp wrist a jam. Not impossible but not easy to do. I know several shooters who do very well in competitions with the gun. Watch the exchange on this site. There are some excellent buys from time to tome. Virtually new 92FS come up for sale in the $650 - $750 range. The US Army rode the gun for a very long time. If you are looking for a plinker the Italian Police 92F are being sold for reasonable prices. I would have one but for the small sights on those pistols.
Buy what you like to shoot any of the guns you listed will out shoot your abilities for a very long time. For all the hoopla from the competition crowd, and I am one of them, I have yet to see many shooters who benefit from buying one gun over another. Some guns have more swagger appeal than others. Personally I am pretty inept with all of them except of course for the PPQ Match (#27) I just bought. I know I will do soooo much better with it. LOL
Take care
Bob
The 85 Combat is an excellent pistol but it's dual slide release is prone to break. I had an early one that finally broke after a zillion rounds but some IPSC shooters I know have told me theirs broke after much fewer rounds.
The 92FS Beretta comes in many iterations. It is an excellent pistol in every respect. Go to youtube and watch some of Langdon's videos. Unlike some polymer guns, the gun is virtually impossible to limp wrist a jam. Not impossible but not easy to do. I know several shooters who do very well in competitions with the gun. Watch the exchange on this site. There are some excellent buys from time to tome. Virtually new 92FS come up for sale in the $650 - $750 range. The US Army rode the gun for a very long time. If you are looking for a plinker the Italian Police 92F are being sold for reasonable prices. I would have one but for the small sights on those pistols.
Buy what you like to shoot any of the guns you listed will out shoot your abilities for a very long time. For all the hoopla from the competition crowd, and I am one of them, I have yet to see many shooters who benefit from buying one gun over another. Some guns have more swagger appeal than others. Personally I am pretty inept with all of them except of course for the PPQ Match (#27) I just bought. I know I will do soooo much better with it. LOL
Take care
Bob
I appreciate all the input. Seems like a cz will suit my needs so I will keep my eyes peeled on the EE for something. At this point I’m just a casual plinker working on fundamentals but when more time becomes available I would like to look at competition shooting.
I've owned an SP 01 and a 92fs. Currently if I had to choose one it would be a Beretta. However, I would opt for the vertec grip.
The SP01 is too heavy and the polycoat finish is grotesque compared to modern finishes.
The SP01 is too heavy and the polycoat finish is grotesque compared to modern finishes.
Not trying to be a troll here but I was given this point of view by my friend before. I know your budget is $700 but the Shadow2 is only about $500 more these days (I understand that it sounds almost like double your budget but it is only a one time thing and the difference is just like 2000-ish rds of 9mm). I personally would just get the Shadow2 instead.
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In your opinion, is the Shadow 2 that much better than a used SP-01 to warrant the additional coin? I've shot both and I prefer the 1. I find the 2 heavier, with sharper edges. It's a great gun for a specific purpose, no doubt, but it's limited in that it isn't legal for some competitions. That may be a factor in the OP's decision.
I shoot them both the same and I don't really find the recoil recovery significantly different.
Although this is a polymer framed pistol, I agree. It seemed to be the best one for me ergonomically... don't think the we have CDN legal barrels for these anymore, at least I haven't seen a Sig Pro for sale in Canada for a while.
Oops, sorry for the necrothread upheaval.
This! Few new shooters are ever going to get much benefit out of the S2's 47oz + weight or decent trigger. Buy the S1 and spend the difference on ammo. Way better option than the S2.
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That makes sense what's the price difference between a SP01 Shadow and a S1 theses days?
About $500 if you use $800 vs $1,300 ex tax. I reload at less than five cents a round - I shoot my own cast bullets mostly. That equates to 10,000 rds of 9MM give or take!
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Bob
If you are reloading 9mm at less than 5 cents a round I would like to know where you buy your powder and primers. lol I am assuming all your lead and brass are free.
If you are reloading 9mm at less than 5 cents a round I would like to know where you buy your powder and primers. lol I am assuming all your lead and brass are free.
