Red Dot Vs. Holographic For Tac Rifle
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.............huh?...............................................no?
Anyways.......
I like the Eotech just because of the recticle and the profile of the sight.. Its harder to get stuck on things like slings, seatbelts etc than an aimpoint, which has the deadspace between the rifle and sight. That said, I only used the eotech for any length of time on the C9. (awesome for that though). If I had to pick for a C8 right now, and had the same budget, I'd take a look at what is on the range, ask to handle it, and make an informed personal decision from there. Having personally handled both a fair amount, I'd go with an aimpoint micro T-1, which retails about $655. So' I'd be saving up for another month.
Aimpoint has a better battery life, and will take more of a stomping, but if its just for range use then pick what you like best. They can both use magnifiers as well so, thats a bonus. Sights are like cars, women, food, etc... there is no nicest car, hottest woman, tastiest hot dog, it all comes down to personal preference and what you consider your priorities of purchase and use.
Enjoy the hunt, its always fun looking for optics. I'm hunting for a 13" 22 mag red dot right now, and its keeping my busy.
The op has edited his post to include more info, at first it was shooting at the range at 40 yards.
Do you need sights on a shotgun at 40 yards? Nope. This is of course if we are talking about hitting a IPSC style target. I threw in quick kill as a joke, it has not been used in a long time. What I was getting at is at 40 yards and under with a rifle, point shooting is fast and effective. Now that he wants to shoot out to 100 while on the move a red dot would be a great idea.
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No. More or less then other brands? Well that depends on many factors I believe. Seen many in use at work and no complains about them regarding that. Now if some fat dudes trained by some armchair commando "tactical" clinics ( not directed to the reply above... ) said they are weak and fragile... Well I guess they know better...Hah.
Remember this: Good enough for them ( many units across the country MIL/LE )... Most probably it will be good enough for you...
But again at this price point eotech will end up cheaper and will still be a solid choice. Aimpoint? Yea sure still a good choice but more expensive.
Have you tried them both? I suggest you do so. See if you like a 1,2,4 or 6 moa dot better. Remember 6 MOA is 6 inches at 100 yards! Also some people do have an issue with the holographic sights because of their eyes. If you need an eye correction you will not see the dot super crisp and sharp. It will be a little fuzzy. Just saying.
Cheers.
I would disagree. On another forum, that's heavily Mil/LE focused, EOtechs have a pretty bad reputation. That said, I'm sure they would be sufficient for 99% of the users on this board.
Also, a brand new Aimpoint PRO is cheaper then any brand new EOtech.
I use sights at all ranges past 5M. Maybe you've done more instinctive shooting than me. The way I was taught was lining up the index finger of the support hand and pointing to the target. I'm not sure if the intent was to use it with all sighting systems, or to compensate for the aiming time with the 3.4X Elcan in close quarters. Most who were using eotechs just used the sights, and both eyes open during the same courses of fire, and had remarkably better results than those of us with a C79. With a shotgun @ 40 yards, I'd still use the bead if there is one. Shotguns are a different animal than a tactical AR, and I'd be concerned with where I was hitting the target more than just hitting it. For a "Tactical" gun, limited to presumably 5 rounds, they'll have to count, ie, heart/lung/neck/mellon, so at that distance, personally, I'd use the sights. Whatever works though, if you can hit it at that range that much quicker without sights, that's awesome.
I'll definitely need to try out the two types since there seems to be alot of debate, but as for the micro T1, besides the lower weight, are there any other benefits over the aimpoint pro? Is the objective lens smaller? Is that a negative? What warrants the higher price over the sparc or another low profile low weight optic? Sorry to spray questions, I will be going to the gun shop tomorrow to see them first hand.
What warrants the higher price over the sparc or bushnell etc is general quality. The aimpoint or EOTech is going to be designed to handle relatively rough use, and still hold zero reasonably well. The sparc or bushnell is likely going to work just fine at the range, but I'm told that if you even think about 3 gun or anything more strenuous, they will not hold up. The Aimpoints and EOTechs are also waterproof to some degree, I don't believe the others are, and waterproofing requires a bit more engineering and material, therefore increased costs.
I have an Aimpoint PRO on my XCR and it works well, definitely want a magnifier at some point. I like the EOTechs, but what made my mind up on the Aimpoint was battery life and price.
I can't tell you about lower priced optics, but between the pro and the t1, the price difference is in the smaller and lighter package. The tech is the same. Let your wallet decide on this one.
Between aimpoint and eotech, my personal experience plus the myriad anecdotal evidence suggests eotech durability is not where it should be for working environments. Having said that, my eotech worked fine oversea, and wasn't until I used it at a work up training for another deployment, that I learned how to use it as a ghost ring.
See, that's the beauty of the internet. If there's a bunch of people, who see more sights combined then I would see in ten lifetimes, saying that reliability for EOtechs isn't quite there, I don't need personal experience to know I could better spend my money elsewhere. I'm not trying to turn this into Aimpoint vs. EOtech, just passing on information to the OP so he can get the best value for his money.
Fuzzy/blurry is a result of one or both of the following. The intensity is too high and/or you are looking at the reticle. Turn the intensity down until the blooming is gone and stop staring at the reticle. Look at the target.
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