Reload shell velocity

They are the Super Sporting loads and are legal for sporting clays. The rules quoted above are from the ATA handbook. There was a guy shooting these shells un our squad last weekend and they were pouding the snot out of him. Meanwhile my 7/8 ounce loads at 1,300 fps were breaking the targets well with a lot less recoil.

I like those 7/8 oz loads. I think mine are a lot slower. I use about 16.8 grains 700X. Not my favorite powder, but I got lots cheap.
 
I prefer a 1oz shell at about 1200 fps for both singles and handicap ( mines 20 yards) I have tried the 7/8 oz at about 1275 fsp and didn't mind them for practice.
 
I'm using 19.5 grains of American Select and all Winchester components.

You suggested that load a couple years ago. I tried it and really liked it, but I could not find it in bulk lots above 1 lb. I switched back to 700X which I have in abundance and even more since I just got another 12 pounder at a steal. Since I only use reloads for practice, I am trying my best to use up my 700X.
 
When was the last time you checked?

Yesterday for the retail. Two days ago at CSSL. Both say that prices will remain til they get their next shipment and are not sure which way the price will go. CSSL get their stuff from humeston but includes the freight in their price. What tax do you pay on top of that price?
 
You suggested that load a couple years ago. I tried it and really liked it, but I could not find it in bulk lots above 1 lb. I switched back to 700X which I have in abundance and even more since I just got another 12 pounder at a steal. Since I only use reloads for practice, I am trying my best to use up my 700X.
At least I'm consistent in my suggestions about powder and Norinco sxs. ;)

I fooled around with most of the standard 12 gauge powders and haven't found anything I like better and can get it in bulk from a local dealer. The only bad news is that it's a little more expensive than most powders but I like the performance and intend to stick with it.
 
Yesterday for the retail. Two days ago at CSSL. Both say that prices will remain til they get their next shipment and are not sure which way the price will go. CSSL get their stuff from humeston but includes the freight in their price. What tax do you pay on top of that price?

With tax in it's pennies under $30, At Hummasons.
 
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At least I'm consistent in my suggestions about powder and Norinco sxs. ;)

I fooled around with most of the standard 12 gauge powders and haven't found anything I like better and can get it in bulk from a local dealer. The only bad news is that it's a little more expensive than most powders but I like the performance and intend to stick with it.

Have you tried the CB wads in that combination?
 
Have you tried the CB wads in that combination?
Yes. The grey CB0178 which is WW12L replacement. Same performance as the Winchester although with a little more plastic build up.

I am loading these in the old style one piece AA hull. I've had some wad cocking problems with them in the AAHS.
 
ohhh. i have had problems with 28 as well as .410 reloading them. did some reasearch and found out that. the AAHS hulls that have a line under the HS are of a different length than ones without the line. They require a different hull. and adjustments are needed on the press itself. Made the adjustments (increased wad pressure and crimp height) and everything worked out great. Had to get them great because the g/f is the one shooting them!
 
ohhh. i have had problems with 28 as well as .410 reloading them. did some reasearch and found out that. the AAHS hulls that have a line under the HS are of a different length than ones without the line. They require a different hull. and adjustments are needed on the press itself. Made the adjustments (increased wad pressure and crimp height) and everything worked out great. Had to get them great because the g/f is the one shooting them!
I've run into the same issues with the 28 gauge AAHS. Here's a good link from Shotgun World on the subject.
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=121124
 
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Sorry ATA rule book.

I shoot NSSA skeet. I don't know of any speed restrictions, all payload based.

That does raise an interesting question though. I wonder how many people are shooting ATA trap with the full dram Challengers.

They do have a reduced load where they claim 1200fps.

I've only ever played around with the #9 shot shells, maybe the trap loads are within ATA tolerances.
 
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