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Hi all I was thinking of getting the remington 770 ((710)) redesigned. After looking at the front sling holder on the forearm, it seems the Harris bipod will not fit on that. IS this correct. I was advised here to get the Harris bipod, best one made, do they have a special attachment to fit the Rem 770.

I know I may be advised against the 770, but I do not shoot riffles a whole heck of a lot and this one is for coyotes, ( in the 270.)

Thanks looking forward to hear some advice.
Dan
 
I'm not going to tell you what you want to hear. molded in studs are not meant for bi-pod use. Take the $450 your going to spend on the 770, and add another $100 and buy a 700 SPS. Or save a $100 and buy a Stevens 200 in an appropriate cartridge. Do yourself the favor, not me.
 
im normally not one of those people that chimes into a thread and tries to talk someone out ofthe rifle/caliber they have their mind made up on. however in this case i just have to say something to try and 'save' you :)

honestly if you are in the market for a new .270, consider both the:
Savage 111FCXP3 Bolt Action Rifle with Scope .270 Win. - $399 at SIR mailorder.
Stevens Model 200 Bolt Action Rifle .270 Win - $299 at SIR mailorder.
they charge no PST and about $15 for shipping.

to put it bluntly the Remington 710/770 is a POS. it trades upon the Remington 700 name and legacy of reliability and accuracy but in fact it has almost nothing to do with these rifles and completely redesigned with the sole purpose of making it as cheap to produce as possible.

both the Savage and Stevens are essentially the exact same barrel and action as the high end Savages. the tradeoff is not in reliability, durability or accuracy but rather due to a barebones stock, no accutrigger, and a plain utilitarian finish. later on if you so choose all of the Savage accessories, barrels, stocks, etc will fit.

the Remington 710/770 is a piece of crap that is made mostly of plastic and intended for the average Joe hunter who will fire 2-3 shots a year to fill his tag. it shares nothing at all with the Remington 700s.

if you are hellbent on a Remington i recommend you spend a little bit more on the lowest end Remington 700 SPS and get a rifle that will last you a lifetime as opposed to modern 'disposable' junk.
 
Tod - you really cant blame the average end user though.
'Remington 700' is one of the most famous models of firearm - even my mom knows what one is - and Remington exploits both the 7xx nomenclature as well as.. shall we say it.. deceiving advertising and product embellishment. to the average person unfamiliar with these exact firearms and trusting in advertising it really seems that the 770 is just a 'budget' 700 variant - not a completely different gun.

meanwhile its not. it has nothing to do with the Remington 700s and has everything to do with cheap production costs.

Dan - really, consider the Savage/Stevens. you are basically giving up the new accutrigger trigger and a fancy stock for a basic Savage that accepts all Savage parts. later on if you grow fond of the rifle you can swap in aftermarket triggers, new stocks from Boyd's or Richards Microfit, etc and really dress it up into a fine gun. its also a switchbarrel rifle so you can cheaply change calibers or just replace the barrel.
in the meantime out of the box it is a perfectly solid and reliable economy gun that makes no compromises in reliability, durability or accuracy like the 710/770 does.... and noone will laugh at you for owning one :)
 
todbartell said:
Ill say it, the 770 is a piece of s**t and anyone who uses one should be made fun of on the internet
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I think it's better than the 710, but not all that much. At least it comes in short action ctgs...

But I'm of a view that a potential purchaser should add the appropriate $$ and pick up an SPS if they want an econo Rem rifle....
 
NAA said:
I think it's better than the 710, but not all that much. At least it comes in short action ctgs...

But I'm of a view that a potential purchaser should add the appropriate $$ and pick up an SPS if they want an econo Rem rifle....
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whats an SPS

Yes I want a economy riffle for the few shots I will use it for, thanks for the comments I do appreciate them good or bad, that is why I am here to ask you guys. I am not considering the 770 because of the scope that it comes with I was planning on selling it for $50 shipping included as I already have a
scope paid around $300 for it. I purchased it to put on my 303 but decided to get a 270. Right now I will look into the other 2 riffles suggested at SIR.

thanks again more feedback welcomed
Dan
 
an SPS in .270 is $489 at SIR right now. $80 more gets you a stainless version.

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whats an SPS
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an SPS is remington's newer 'entry level' 700. stands for special purpose synthetic.
comes in heavy barreled versions which are the 'SPS Varmint' and a stainless version.

remington used to offer their 'Varmint' line - VS, VSS, VSSF, etc. these were almost the same gun as the remington 700 P (police).
they swapped the stock for a cheaper plastic one (as opposed to the fibreglass) and it became the SPS.
here is a decent review of the SPS (the heavy barreled SPS Varmint):
http://www.snipercentral.com/remspsv.htm

if you do not need a scope save your money and just get a Stevens. aside from the fact that it says 'stevens' instead of 'savage' on the bolt, and you dont get the accutrigger, it is identical to the Savage guns.

recently when i tried to order one SIR was on backorder for the .30-06 Savage package, so i stepped up to the entry level Savage stainless w/Accutrigger and posted a thorough review of what you get:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=191957

the Stevens 200 is the same gun but no accutrigger, not stainless, no detachable magazine. for half the price. (this was $600)

all of these guns: the remington 700 SPS, Stevens 200 and Savages are based on the same actions, barrels, etc of their more expensive counterparts like the 700 BDL, Savage model 12, etc... so you will be much better off with something like these that are 100% compatible with factory and aftermarket parts that are widely available. none are 'dumbed down' in design... most just have a more utilitarian finish and a cheaper stock.
 
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manbearpig said:
im normally not one of those people that chimes into a thread and tries to talk someone out ofthe rifle/caliber they have their mind made up on. however in this case i just have to say something to try and 'save' you :)

honestly if you are in the market for a new .270, consider both the:
Savage 111FCXP3 Bolt Action Rifle with Scope .270 Win. - $399 at SIR mailorder.
Stevens Model 200 Bolt Action Rifle .270 Win - $299 at SIR mailorder.
they charge no PST and about $15 for shipping.

to put it bluntly the Remington 710/770 is a POS. it trades upon the Remington 700 name and legacy of reliability and accuracy but in fact it has almost nothing to do with these rifles and completely redesigned with the sole purpose of making it as cheap to produce as possible.

both the Savage and Stevens are essentially the exact same barrel and action as the high end Savages. the tradeoff is not in reliability, durability or accuracy but rather due to a barebones stock, no accutrigger, and a plain utilitarian finish. later on if you so choose all of the Savage accessories, barrels, stocks, etc will fit.

the Remington 710/770 is a piece of crap that is made mostly of plastic and intended for the average Joe hunter who will fire 2-3 shots a year to fill his tag. it shares nothing at all with the Remington 700s.

if you are hellbent on a Remington i recommend you spend a little bit more on the lowest end Remington 700 SPS and get a rifle that will last you a lifetime as opposed to modern 'disposable' junk.
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can the stevens accept parts from savage, if so the only proce difference between these 2 is the scope and I have a good scope
 
ok got it the sps is the rem 700 the one rem is trying to go off its reputation with the failed 710 and now the 770

thanks
I am realy narrowing it down now,
dan
 
dan duf said:
ok got it the sps is the rem 700 the one rem is trying to go off its reputation with the failed 710 and now the 770
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no, the 700 SPS is a pure Remington 700 - just has a cheaper stock than the higher end ones.
the SPS-V (varmint) is pretty much a remington 700P (police) just with a plastic stock instead of the HS Precision fibreglass stock on the ~$900 700P.

dan duf said:
can the stevens accept parts from savage, if so the only price difference between these 2 is the scope and I have a good scope
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yeah.
only difference is finish, and lack of Accutrigger. the $400 Savage i linked above is a special 'package gun' and has no accutrigger either. however it does have a detachable magazine though, plus the cheap scope, some cheap mounts and rings, and sling swivels/sling.

the cheapest Savage with an Accutrigger is the Savage 11FCNS at $500, and it is also a detachable magazine model.
there are a few types of Savages though so when you want to replace the stock you have to make sure you order the right one. the Savage i reviewed in my thread has the new style detachable magazine. the Stevens has an internal box magazine.

here is a link to a decent review on the Stevens:
http://www.shootingtimes.com/longgun_reviews/stevens200_041106/index1.html

the Stevens 200 is pretty much universally regarded as currently the best value in a gun, so if you are on a budget or want the absolute most gun for a little bit of money you cant go wrong with it.
 
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ok that internal mag could be a problem for me I hate that, the 7mm I use for deer has that mag too. I dont like them , can that be modified to accept a detacheable mag clip.

dan
 
btw - flip back to page 1 in that review to read the full review. i linked it on page 2 so you could see the finish on the Stevens and the internal magazine.

the finish on the Savage will be nicer in addition to the detachable mag and avalability of the Acutrigger on most models - but as you start climbing up and up in price the Savages become a bit less attractive and you move into a totally different bracket with Rugers, Tikkas, Remingtons, etc.

dan duf said:
ok that internal mag could be a problem for me I hate that, the 7mm I use for deer has that mag too. I dont like them , can that be modified to accept a detacheable mag clip.
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possibly. but then you are probably better off just getting the $400 savage/scope package with detachable mag, or move up to the $500 Savage with accutrigger (this is the exact same gun i review in my thread just blued, not stainless).
the accutrigger is quite nice. not necessary, but it will improve your accuracy. you can adjust it down to 1.5lbs in 2 minutes with the tool provided and it is completely safe.... so if you are the type of person that spends money on a triggerjob by a gunsmith this will save you that money.
 
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an SPS is more like a hinged floorplate ADL with a rougher finish. It replaced the ADL and offers a stainless 700 at a lower price than the BDL SS that is no longer offered (XCR replaced that one)
 
Ok Guys

Again thanks a lot for all the info, I have decided against the Rem 770, will go for the savage in 270. I know this is a little heavey for yotes but will try to find the lightest loads available, and it will be a great gun for deer.

Where would I go to sell my old 303 british/churchill riffle, I will not be needing it anymore. It shoots good, I also have with it the special adapter to receive a scope mount, never could get it installed properly.

I will not ship the bullets to the seller I will give them to the firing range officer in Stittsville. They are always glad to accept brass.

Thanks again.

Dan
 
apply for membership to the EE, and list it there. please do yourself and your buyers a favor and post pics - ads without pics are often ignored.
imageshack.us hosts them for free.

dont give away your ammo YET. offer them as a 'bonus' with the gun for local pickup only - might help you sell it. usually its not worth it to ship them, the cost is too high - but if someone in the area is interested in your gun and happens to be in your area the extra ammo would be appreciated.
 
Thanks to the members here

Just wanted to say thanks to the guys here that replied on this post when I was thinking of getting the Rem 770. I was advised against it and went with the Stevens 200 in 270.

I am very satisfied with this riffle.

This has got to be the best board for information on firearms.

Thanks again
Dan
 
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