Remington 700 SPS tactical (.223 or 308?)

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I am looking at getting either the Remington 700 SPS tactical in .223 or .308, and im not sure wich one would be best... I will mostly be punching holes in paper but I will also use it for some hunting.

I was just wondering if the caliber will have that much of a difference in accuracy or take down power for game?( im going to get cut up for this one lol please be nice[i know 308 is more powerfull etc but any other info?])

Im new when it comes to precision rifles so any help would be appreciated !!(and if your reply isnt constructive dont bother trying to just up your post count)

Any one have recomendations for optics also??

Thanks again guys...and girls!!
Ukie_10

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I'd get 223 if shooting targets (and small game as large as coyotes) only and 308 if shooting deer was a possibility. 223 uses half the powder and will be cheaper to reload, but I'm not a fan of using it for deer. You are too limited in your choice of shots with 223 on deer. Who needs that limitation.
 
IIRC .22 calibers are not allowed for big game in some provinces, so that's up to you to see

Everyone I met who bought the sps tac were on a budget so bushnell was definitely the way to go, are you on budget? Bushnell elite series are popular for their price/quality ratio. Since it's probably going to be used for hunting, avoid the popular elite 3200 fixed 10x, 10x is too much for hunting
 
i'd go 308,gives you the option of hunting and target shooting with one firearm,the more familiar you are with the gun/optics,the better your chances at a trophy kill versus a miss

ps,just made the same decision myself...308 incoming
 
Hunting what in particular? Small game and varmints then Grizzly Peg is on the money, .223 will get it done and cost you significantly less to practice with. If you go for big game (in North America) I would consider moving up to .308

Get both! (Sorry, I just thought I'd say it before anyone else did)!


Optics are almost entirely a matter of user preference. Decide what you need for magnification, then what you want to spend. If your lucky then when you decide these two things you will find something you like in your price range. If not, then you have to sacrifice either quality or magnification........or take your empties in ind overspend!
 
charles.emond said:
IIRC .22 calibers are not allowed for big game in some provinces, so that's up to you to see

Everyone I met who bought the sps tac were on a budget so bushnell was definitely the way to go, are you on budget?
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I dont know where you picked up 22cal in my description but.... yes I am on budget...what kind of budget(i couldnt tell you) prob around 900$ any cost savers let me know!!

Shrek said:
Hunting what in particular?
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maybe bear this fall but it will prob hit more paper than game(at this point)

Holmes said:
i'd go 308,gives you the option of hunting and target shooting with one firearm,the more familiar you are with the gun/optics,the better your chances at a trophy kill versus a miss

ps,just made the same decision myself...308 incoming
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I want a shooter.... but 308 is pretty expesive vs 223 no? let me know how you like yours!!

so far i guess i'll be going towards 308? i dont know lol

Thanks again guys for the imput!!!
ukie_10
 
when he said .22 caliber he is talking about .223. Same thing. I went with .308. I also have a .223 but prefer the .308 for target. I dont hunt but if I did I would be going with a .308 over the .223.
 
I have a sps tac in .223 topped with a Falcon 4.5-18.

It is my first 'target' style rifle (other than rimfire) so I went with .223 over .308 purely based on cost of ammo. A heavy barrel target rifle is probably less that idea to hunt with due to weight and the type of scope. Figured if I get into hunting I could justify a rifle specific to what I want it to do.
 
+1 for .308

I bought a .308 while my buddy got a .223. Both of us shot paper primarily and the biggest difference that we noticed was the wind drift. Shooting 150-168 grain bullets I had significanly less wind drift then my buddy and his 55 grain .223.
 
ukie_10 said:
I dont know where you picked up 22cal in my description but.... yes I am on budget...what kind of budget(i couldnt tell you) prob around 900$ any cost savers let me know!!
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wild1 said:
when he said .22 caliber he is talking about .223. Same thing. I went with .308. I also have a .223 but prefer the .308 for target. I dont hunt but if I did I would be going with a .308 over the .223.
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what he said!
.22cal is not only for rimfire
 
A little more on the cost of reloading. You will use around $0.12 worth of powder to reload a 223 and around $0.22 to reload a 308. You may get 223 bullets a lot cheaper, but for precision shooting or any quality bullet you still pay almost as much for 223 as 308. The more premium of a bullet you buy, the closer they get in price. So you may reload your 223 with good bullets for $6.00-$8.00 a box and your 308 with good bullets for $11 or more. Not counting the brass.
 
Bullets for the .22 cal are cheaper than .30 cal (ie. 75gr. bergers $35/100 vs. 168gr. Bergers $69/100), you use about half the powder, etc.
But.....if you plan on bear hunting like you say then a .308 is the only choice between the two calibres.
 
definately a recoil difference between .223 and .308. I could shoot my .223 all day no problems. Can't say the same about my .308. Recoil isn't harsh with the .308 but its noticeable.
 
SPS Remington

Not to detract from you buying a "new" Remington but, have you considered that your budget might go farther if you buy a previously loved rifle?

You might find some really nice deals on the Equipment Exchange here.

If for hunting the .308 is the choice if you plan on shooting larger critters.
As for the expensive reloading of match bullets and their costs being similar, that only applys if your shooting longer range "targets" and your looking for small groups size; for hunting you won't (shouldn't be) using match bullets you,ll be using hunting bullets and you should post questions in the hunting forums to find out what your best choice is.

As for recoil the .308 is definately alot different from the .223 but is still easily managable unless your specifically sensitive to recoil.
I have a friend (large guy, rescue tow truck guy) who is sensitive to recoil and after about 8-10 shots on the skeet field (12 ga.) his shoulder is black and purple, he shoots anyways and loves my 50 cal but he pays for it.

After seeing a students "new" rifle ruined while still unfired I'm a little nervous about the new Remingtons though, part of the reason I suggested you check the E.E. forum.
I had a new SPS in .308 just over a year ago and found after very few shots in a row that the small barrell heated up really quick and the point of inpact moved a considerable distance very quickly. Something to consider, I've always liked heavy barrells for this reason.

Mike

"new unfired opened in a classroom on a damp day"

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