Remington 742 opinion

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A friend of mine is looking at buying a Remington 742 in (he thinks) 30-06. I am more of a milsurp fan myself so I'd like to put it out to you guys - what are these rifles like?
He will be using it for deer/moose. Are there any hidden issues/problems with these guns that he should be aware of or look out for? And then the big question - what sort of coin would a decent one be worth? (I know - how long is a piece of string right?). The one he is looking at is 350 and it comes with a 3-7 power scope of unknown manufacture.

Any light that someone could shed on this apparently long-out-of-production firearm would be appreciated. Thanks
 
$350 is a fair price for the gun provided it has a clean bore, is mechaically sound and the lugs on the bolt lock up solid. I've owned 5 742/7400 semis. They need to be kept spotless clean and go easy on the oil in the action. I used to clean my actions out before the season and use a shot of dry lube with teflon. Also had the best luck with Remington factory ammunition. Prepare for the naysayers on the Rem semi's, there's lots of them and I'm sure they will chime in.
 
Prepare for the naysayers on the Rem semi's, there's lots of them and I'm sure they will chime in.
Well, you were warned!
There are inherent design problems with the 742, specifically in the longer cartridge rifles.
The bolt and carrier are held loosely in the action bars and on recoil will come back canted in the action, digging the bolt lugs into the inside of the receiver. The 7400, that Remington produced as the replacement to the 742, has a bushing holding the carrier and bolt more solidly in the action bars, as well as 3 bolt lugs instead of the interrupted thread style of the 742.
Would I buy it? Not likely, but if he wants it, have it inspected by someone that knows these rifles and knows what they are looking for.
 
If I were considering buying one, I would certainly want to test fire it.
Looked at a 742 Carbine in .30-06 this week, the lugs have really imprinted the receiver. Its jamming, don't know if that is the cause or not. Not extracting/ejecting properly, hopefully a thorough cleaniong will do the job.
The pump versions don't seem to have the problems.
 
I had vertical stringing problems with my 30-06 Remington 74, which is a birch and less polished version of the improved 7400. Sold it.
 
I am a bolt action fan, so my opinion is worth next to nothing. However, my 2nd 30-06 was the first version of Remington's Semi-auto, the 740. It was a decent rifle for what I had in it, and I shot about 8 animals with it without a hitch. Just keep it clean, and DO NOT oil it!! Dry lubes in small quantity are much better. As I remember, I shot only factory ammo through it, one of the last rifles I owned to have that distinction. At $350.00, provided it is deemed sound and functional, your friend should be OK. Regards, Eagleye.
 
Had a 742 carbine in 30-06, accurate but heavy in the mountains and the action would freeze shut in very cold weather. Sold it, bought a Savage 116.
 
I used to have one in .30-06. I don't any more.I have never been so disapointed in a gun as much as that one. I'll never touch one again. Damn thing would jam on me constantly, and I kept it squeeky clean . Absolute junk. If your buddy wants a gun he can count on , tell him to buy a Tikka T3 or a Savage 16-116 or save up and buy a Weatherby or get a Mauser 98 and build on it AND DON'T WASTE YOUR PRECIOUS TIME AND MONEY ON rEMINGTON JUNK! ! ! ! ! !
 
For 350 its worth it. Rather than the regular diatribe of slop, here are some of the pointers you asked for. 742s are a case to, and of themselves, though people here seem to be ignoring that somewhat. A couple of pointers your buddy should look at. Remington kept upgrading the 742 over the years, tweeking with various problems, and the key thing IMHO is to try and make sure your getting a later 742 with some of the upgrades.
Things to check: ask to see the triggerguard out of the gun, its easy enough to be a legitimate request. Then check out the inside of the action, is it badly worn (lots of bare or rusted metal - bad). Look closely in the middle of the reciever, in the channel that would be along the top of the rifle, where the scopemounts are screwed on, do you see deep(say half to 1mm) sets of dents in the sides of that channel, from where the bolt head would be overrotating and hitting it? Dont worry about very shallow sets, or the usual deeper set at the very rear of the reciever (unless they are blatantly obvious and quite deep).
Does it have a firing pin return spring? Some do, some dont, you want one that does. You can usually tell once the trigger group is out, by pushing in on the firing pin, it should feel spongy, and push back out.
The other key issue is the bolt head locking bar, this locks the head into a fixed position on opening to prevent the early issues of bolthead over rotation and impacting of the locking lugs onto the receiver (when the dents get deep enough, the bolt head tried to 'engage' them, and threw the guns timing off, causing jams etc). The bolt head locking bar was upgraded by remington on some of the early guns, but had a 'permanent' fix on later guns.
Those are the issues particular to the 742. Additionally, the original mags are garbage, the newer ones tend to feed much better and more reliably.
Ultimately it comes down to the owner, if like most 'gun owners' he doesnt know his ass from a hole in the wall, and doesnt have the apptitude to work on his own guns, he should skip the 742. They are easy to work on, easy to make run reliably, easy to take apart and reassemble....if you are willing. If you arent, forget it.
One last comment, the 742 is like everything Remington has ever made, junky, just like the 700 and 710. The difference is people expect that you will have to 'fix' your 700 etc, but get all flustered about the 742s, which are usually more easily tweeked than the junk Remington is making these days.




Fixed it.
I'm serious.
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You old man you, go buy a 742 now would ya.
 
they jam. and if they do, pull back the receiver and look inside, if u notice a type of pitting on the track, ur beat. i took a mint one into a gunsmith to see if he could fix the jam and he took one look at it and said its toast. he could fix it for fifty bucks but couldnt guarentee it wouldnt break after one shot.
 
Rem 742

I have owed one for more than 40 years in 308 Win. Keep them clean with quality ammo. Never had a problem. Dabbler
 
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