JDCSigP226
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Where can I get one of these? I hear they are Non Restricted..is that true?
Remington ACR
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You have to admit though that most of the issues we have see in Canada are related to the non restricted Questar aftermarket barrels. I am very interested in shooting one of the new ones with bushmasters 18.6 inch factory barrel.
angryeyebrows
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Apparently the ones with the restricted Bushmaster barrels that made it into the country work well.
I would still much rather try the new improved Remington ACR.
I would still much rather try the new improved Remington ACR.
As far as i know, i may have bought the last one for sale in Canada (other the private sales.). The only difference between rem. And bushmaster are the hand guards. Rem. Uses lighter ones for military use, you will also find that the trigger group for the rem. is different (obviously, being military and all). The internals and functions are the same. All the problems were related to the after market barrels, which was promptly dealt with. Mine has fired about a 1000 rounds with out one hic-up and it has the non-restricted barrel. They are in short supply for a few reasons. When Remington bought bushmaster, they closed up shop and moved them in, they have been catching up ever since. The 2nd is the fact that several US military units have adopted the ACR and, like always, they get first dibbs. If you are looking for one, prowl the EE form and act fast there may not be anymore coming in for a while.
angryeyebrows
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Look at the photo of the new Remington ACR above. They made changes to almost every aspect of the rifle. It even uses a metal lower receiver now.
You must have missed my post HERE
Who? No US Military Units have adopted the ACR that I know of.
Even though it has even less magpul on it?
blaxsun
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At least they got the weight right this time, and you still put a Magpul pistol grip on it...
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The problem is that Magpul dreamed up a system (being an ultra efficient marketing machine) and stirred up the market, but it has not figured out the nuts and bolts, as well as the economic, of mass production. They prototyped it and sold the idea. They did the glorious part but passed the ball of the real business to someone else.
It is a bit unfair to call Bushmaster/Remington out for "screwing up" the Masada. They are the people who have to deal with making this system economically and efficiently, so that money can be made and investment can be recouped at a price point that people can buy. That is the most difficult and risky part of the business - to tool up and bring it to production. They got the black eye for doing the job that Magpul does not know how to do.
In typical American fashion, the consumer market tends to hurry up to push products out so they can hurry up to generate cash flow to pay back the investment while they are still trying to iron out bugs and issues. If you think about this, guns are consumer products and they are sold in a consumer market. Real military products like G36 or P90 takes almost 10 years to mature, from the date they were first put into production. And before that, they probably have spent 4-8 years on developing the system and figuring out/setting the production process. There is a difference between the consumer makret and the military market, even though the commodity is the same. hence, Freedom group has two divisions to handle the two different markets so corporately they can easily manage the performance of two different markets. They are the same gun in a way, but they are really 2 different products.
Yeah that's true, I just wish that they had worked more closely with industry. A company specializing in injected polymers designing a full blown rifle was bound to get screwed some at some point in time. Products need to be designed with manufacturing in mind.
