Remington vs sf ll users

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Looking at picking up one of these for coyote hunting in 223 or 220 swift. I got to handle one a few days ago and really liked the fell and finish.
Just wondering how they perform, they worth the $1200+ price tag?
I like the HS stock on it, that probably helps add to the price.
Anyone have any experience with these rifles? Suggestions on which cartridge to go with, I already have a Browning Eclipse in 22-250 just looking for something new to play with.
Thanks
Dan
 
Hi Dan I have vssf ii in .223 it shoots very well. Had it out to the range this morning and it out shot my friends $2500 cooper with my $1000 remington. The rife can shoot better than me. I'm trying to enter my rifle shoots .5 club, but the loose screw behind the trigger is having a hard time.
 
I have one in 220 Swift, HS stock, topped with a Zeiss Rapid-Z Varmint. Rifle and scope cost me just over $3000.

Firstly, the rifle is a laser beam, holes touching each other at 200 yards. Recoil is fairly sharp for a 22, even with the big stock and heavy barrel. It surprised me at first, but is minor for how far I can reach out to coyotes.

If you handload or are a competitive shooter, the Swift is your best bet. If not, the 22-250 has more load diversity, evenmoreso if you go with the 223 Remington.

I've been very impressed with my scope as well; I recommend you research it as well. It works exactly as advertised.

ou8u3o8 said:
Hi Dan I have vssf ii in .223 it shoots very well. Had it out to the range this morning and it out shot my friends $2500 cooper with my $1000 remington. The rife can shoot better than me. I'm trying to enter my rifle shoots .5 club, but the loose screw behind the trigger is having a hard time.
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The above post brings out a potentially depressing situation. It's frustrating having a rifle that shoots better than you ever will. A workmate who learned to shoot in the USMC asked if he could try it, and he put two shots in the same crater as the first one (we were using a surplus spec blind as a target). I don't think I'll ever be able to hold still enough to do that myself.
 
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How does the higher end Remington compare to the lower end? I had a sps dm in 30.06, just didn't like it at all, keep it for a little under a year and traded it for a TC.
I noticed the finished of the vssf seemed a lot better than the sps I had, I just remember it feeling kind of sloppy to me. It turned me off of the Remington line until I got to handle the vssf.
I'm just getting in to reloading, that's why I wanted to go with something a little different. I haven't seen too many 220 swifts around.
 
You're not getting a top-notch Weatherby or Mauser, but I would say it's night and day. Mine is smooth and neat without the rattle and play of the SPS or 770. It's still got the long bolt throw and side-tang safety like every other 700, but it's silky smooth.

Out of the box accuracy is the real draw IMHO, and the Swift has great potential when custom loaded for a 26" barrel.
 
Dsmer4ever said:
Looking at picking up one of these for coyote hunting in 223 or 220 swift. I got to handle one a few days ago and really liked the fell and finish.
Just wondering how they perform, they worth the $1200+ price tag?
I like the HS stock on it, that probably helps add to the price.
Anyone have any experience with these rifles? Suggestions on which cartridge to go with, I already have a Browning Eclipse in 22-250 just looking for something new to play with.
Thanks
Dan
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I would buy a tikka heavy barrel varming for a grand or have one built for not much more then a stock sfii. I would not spend $1200 on a stock remington.
 
kman300 said:
I would buy a tikka heavy barrel varmint for a grand or have one built for not much more then a stock sfii. I would not spend $1200 on a stock remington.
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Most of this. Wish I would never have sold my Tikka M595 .22-250Rem. Just from past experience, I would definitely have a .22-250Rem built off a Rem 700 action before buying a VSSFII.
 
Couple of Remington haters chiming in here.
Ignore them.
I have owned the VSSF in 220 Swift, and know the potential is very good.

Mine would shoot consistently around 1¼" at 200 meters,
and would surprise me with a group under 1" @ 200 often enough
to make me smile.
Regards, Eagleye.
 
I've been reading a lot of reviews over the last few days and haven't really heard any bad comments or reviews in regards to the rifle. I just wanted to hear some personal experience from the members here.
 
I have an older VS in 220 Swift topped with a big Leupold.

Kills gophers far far away!

But sad to say, it's no Weatherby or Mauser. ;)
 
Eagleye said:
Couple of Remington haters chiming in here.
Ignore them.
I have owned the VSSF in 220 Swift, and know the potential is very good.

Mine would shoot consistently around 1¼" at 200 meters,
and would surprise me with a group under 1" @ 200 often enough
to make me smile.
Regards, Eagleye.
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I'm not a Remington hater. I've had 8 of them over the years and am having a gun built on a 700 short action as we speak. I'm saying for $200 less you can buy a tikka that has better qc, machining, barrel etc. or buy a $400 700 short action and build one for a bit more than $1200. You can do better for your money than giving $1200 of it to Remington for a stock gun. That's what I'm saying.
 
kman300 said:
I'm not a Remington hater. I've had 8 of them over the years and am having a gun built on a 700 short action as we speak. I'm saying for $200 less you can buy a tikka that has better qc, machining, barrel etc. or buy a $400 700 short action and build one for a bit more than $1200. You can do better for your money than giving $1200 of it to Remington for a stock gun. That's what I'm saying.
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What kman said. x2.
 
If you look at it objectively like kman300 said you would be silly not to get the Remington. The bare stainless action alone would be $650 new and the stock on the EE is going to $325 plus shipping. If you like the stock and would buy HS-precision, then the barrel and all the gunsmithing to put it all together is only $200. I would say that is excellent value. Also, with the Remington you don't have a Tupperware stock like on the tikka's. My $0.02, but hey, I'm a rem fan.
 
nevanevan said:
If you look at it objectively like kman300 said you would be silly not to get the Remington. The bare stainless action alone would be $650 new and the stock on the EE is going to $325 plus shipping. If you like the stock and would buy HS-precision, then the barrel and all the gunsmithing to put it all together is only $200. I would say that is excellent value. Also, with the Remington you don't have a Tupperware stock like on the tikka's. My $0.02, but hey, I'm a rem fan.
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Just buying the rifle seems like a good deal if performs as everyone says it should. I considered building a rifle but I do not already have a action. As soon as I start thinking of building a rifle from nothing I just want to go to a custom action, I really like the Stiller predator. Cost of a used rem short action probably around $500? Then what about having it blueprinted? What's another $500 then it's a full custom Rig? But then were talking about a $2500 rifle compared to a $1200 rifle.
How far ahead am I coming? I have no experience here. I tend to over do things sometimes when less often works fine.
Thanks
Dan
 
kman300 said:
I'm not a Remington hater. I've had 8 of them over the years and am having a gun built on a 700 short action as we speak. I'm saying for $200 less you can buy a tikka that has better qc, machining, barrel etc. or buy a $400 700 short action and build one for a bit more than $1200. You can do better for your money than giving $1200 of it to Remington for a stock gun. That's what I'm saying.
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sask378 said:
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OK, I take that statement back. But having several custom built rifles myself, I do not think you can build a decent custom for much less than $2k, which still makes that VSSF a decent deal
But I agree that if you want the ultimate Swift, find a short 700 action, and build to your heart's content. Just don't expect to do it for $1.2K
As far as Tikka goes, I have little use for them personally. Had a real sour one, and no satisfactory service.
Regards, Eagleye.
 
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