Renewed appreciation for my Glock

" There is a safety on a Sig P220 "

The Ontario Provincial Police carry Sig Sauer. They are all DAO without a manual safety.
 
" Although the Glock is a DAO/ "safe action system" the trigger pull is in no way comparable to any DAO pistol around. "


Are you talking about from the factory, or after the Glock trigger has been lightened with aftermarket springs etc?

I have fired factory stock Glocks a few times. The trigger pull is long and heavy, no different than a CZ-75 with decocker on the first pull.

Police departments that issue Glocks usually make the triggers even heavier than factory for duty carry.
 
" Although the Glock is a DAO/ "safe action system" the trigger pull is in no way comparable to any DAO pistol around. "


Are you talking about from the factory, or after the Glock trigger has been lightened with aftermarket springs etc?

I have fired factory stock Glocks a few times. The trigger pull is long and heavy, no different than a CZ-75 with decocker on the first pull.

Police departments that issue Glocks usually make the triggers even heavier than factory for duty carry.

The CZ with decocker isn't a DAO gun though, it adds the "Joy" of having to accomodate the change from DA pull to SA press - it's what Cooper referred to as a 'Crunchenticker' - crunch on the first pull and tick on the remaining ones.
 
There is a safety on a Sig P220

To which variant are you referring, the standard P220 has a decocker (not a safety) there's also a DAO (see above - and yes the trigger sucks) and finally there's a single action variant, which does in fact have a safety, but is not a double action in any way. Relatively speaking, based on production that's the order you're most likely to encounter them in.
 
" Although the Glock is a DAO/ "safe action system" the trigger pull is in no way comparable to any DAO pistol around. "


Are you talking about from the factory, or after the Glock trigger has been lightened with aftermarket springs etc?

I have fired factory stock Glocks a few times. The trigger pull is long and heavy, no different than a CZ-75 with decocker on the first pull.

Police departments that issue Glocks usually make the triggers even heavier than factory for duty carry.

I'm referring to stock Glocks, with 5.5lbs trigger pulls. The length of pull is only a half inch, hardly long or heavy.

TDC
 
i started using glocks...love the simplicity and no bs design... i own a hk usp v1 with a decocker and a safety, and its a bit of a pain when reholstering as the hammer should be decocked everytime the gun is holstered, so i sometimes fumble with the decocker. ah well, just another step, might go back to my trusted glock 22 or m&p 40
 
I still shoot, and really enjoy shooting 1911 pistols, but if I had to go in harms way and the choice was a Glock (or M&P) and a 1911 - there's no question which way I'd go. If the SHTF - always, always, go with the combat tupperware.
 
So its been a week now since my Holster course.
I hit the range a couple of times this past week to practice my new skill. As fate would have it I developed the Glock "newbie" habit of shooting low and left!:confused: Prior to the using the holster I was shooting my Glock in the black with the same 6 o'clock hold.
I went to the range today to "fix" the problem. I brought along my AA .22lr kit and ran a couple hundred rounds threw it(btw without a single failure using Blazer bulk ammo!). Once I started hitting the black consistantly I swapped out the AA slide for 9mm.
In the end my problem of shooting low and left was fixed by putting more meat of the trigger finger on the trigger. I don't know why things changed but I'm glad its resolved:D
The Glock17 and AA .22lr kit rocks.....
 
So its been a week now since my Holster course.
I hit the range a couple of times this past week to practice my new skill. As fate would have it I developed the Glock "newbie" habit of shooting low and left!:confused: Prior to the using the holster I was shooting my Glock in the black with the same 6 o'clock hold.
I went to the range today to "fix" the problem. I brought along my AA .22lr kit and ran a couple hundred rounds threw it(btw without a single failure using Blazer bulk ammo!). Once I started hitting the black consistantly I swapped out the AA slide for 9mm.
In the end my problem of shooting low and left was fixed by putting more meat of the trigger finger on the trigger. I don't know why things changed but I'm glad its resolved:D
The Glock17 and AA .22lr kit rocks.....

Your issue isn't a Glock problem, its a handgun problem. Flinching is perfectly normal and natural which is why right handed users drop rounds low left, and left handed users drop rounds low right.

By more meat I hope you're still on the pad of the distal phalange(the tip) of your finger and NOT the joint. If you shove too much finger in the trigger guard you will "crowd" the frame with the rest of your finger during firing which can cause shots to go left or, if you can end up pulling the trigger to the right(right handed shooter) with your finger tip moving shots to the right.


TDC
 
By more meat I hope you're still on the pad of the distal phalange(the tip) of your finger and NOT the joint. If you shove too much finger in the trigger guard you will "crowd" the frame with the rest of your finger during firing which can cause shots to go left or, if you can end up pulling the trigger to the right(right handed shooter) with your finger tip moving shots to the right.


TDC

Before I hit the range I did some controlled dry firing out of the holster and found the slightest down and left movement of the front sight. By putting more pad (finger) on the trigger I found the movement was less.
I'm sure I just need a ton more holster/shooting practice.
 
I recently did my Black Badge at the Brant Club. As stated on another thread here, there were a variety of pistols there, mine being a Gen 4 G 17. As usual my Gen 4 chugged on with not even a hiccup. I have put approximately 1400 rounds through it and have never had any malfunctions. I do believe the trigger pull and feel are not the greatest but that can be fixed rather cheaply and quickly. There were numerous failures of other brands during the course, some were operator error, ammunition related or firearm related. I hope to get a 3.5lbs. trigger up grade kit from Glockmeister soon. Hopefully that will help with my accuracy.
 
Sounds like you also had a great time on your course!
I found the combination of a NY1 spring and the Glock (-)3.5 Connector eliminated the "mushy" take-up. Break is crisp.
I think I spent $30 for both parts and it was simple to install. I like the mods...you may too.
 
Before I hit the range I did some controlled dry firing out of the holster and found the slightest down and left movement of the front sight. By putting more pad (finger) on the trigger I found the movement was less.
I'm sure I just need a ton more holster/shooting practice.


More rounds down range is always a good start:D

I recently did my Black Badge at the Brant Club. As stated on another thread here, there were a variety of pistols there, mine being a Gen 4 G 17. As usual my Gen 4 chugged on with not even a hiccup. I have put approximately 1400 rounds through it and have never had any malfunctions. I do believe the trigger pull and feel are not the greatest but that can be fixed rather cheaply and quickly. There were numerous failures of other brands during the course, some were operator error, ammunition related or firearm related. I hope to get a 3.5lbs. trigger up grade kit from Glockmeister soon. Hopefully that will help with my accuracy.


Just a quick comment. Accuracy is a function of the shooter which is 100% attributed to your consistency from shot to shot. Changing parts does nothing to improve accuracy directly. What mods CAN do is make being consistent easier for you the shooter. Think of mods as tools to get the job done, and yourself as the guy using the tools. Great tools in the hands of someone who doesn't know how to use them are just as useless as not having the tools at all. Focus on the fundamentals(you and your ability).

TDC
 
I recently did my Black Badge at the Brant Club. As stated on another thread here, there were a variety of pistols there, mine being a Gen 4 G 17. As usual my Gen 4 chugged on with not even a hiccup. I have put approximately 1400 rounds through it and have never had any malfunctions. I do believe the trigger pull and feel are not the greatest but that can be fixed rather cheaply and quickly. There were numerous failures of other brands during the course, some were operator error, ammunition related or firearm related. I hope to get a 3.5lbs. trigger up grade kit from Glockmeister soon. Hopefully that will help with my accuracy.

Disconnector is a good upgrade...my glock trigger came in at around 9lbs from the factory...quite a bit for any type of accurate shooting.

The other upgrades I wouldn't pay much attention too...except the extended mag release.
 
Its not a big deal, but its still one more step in the drawing and holstering process. For a match its not such a challenge. When someone is trying to kill you, it could very well be the most difficult task you never complete. Manual/positive safeties are dead IMO. No need for them.
TDC

good thing i dont ever plan on having to shoot somebody then ;)
 
I just upped my appreciation meter by replacing the stock polymer sights with a set of Trijicon Night Sights.
Probably never shoot them in the dark but boy do they sparkle in low light!
Can't wait to "test drive" them.
 
I just upped my appreciation meter by replacing the stock polymer sights with a set of Trijicon Night Sights.
Probably never shoot them in the dark but boy do they sparkle in low light!
Can't wait to "test drive" them.

I like the Trijicons myself. Don't forget to get another set to put on your AA slide though... I hated switching back to the ball and cup when shooting .22.
 
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