Reproduction barrel on an original 1858 Remington frame?

This is clearly counter to Coachgun's findings. But I helped compare and measure my bolt to the other half dozen 1860 bolts the smith had and saw the differences first hand.

As I mentioned above...Colts are a different story. The 1860 is easier to retrofit with a new cylinder,and everything else...well,that's where the fun ends and the nightmare begins.

CG
 
There are a couple of sites that make and sell reproductions of all the original parts except the barrel and cylinder so Ill be ok with those parts if the Pietta parts don't work. It sounds like with exception of the screws I'll be able to make most of them work if they need replacing. From the sounds of it I'll be ordering the Pietta .45ACP cylinder. They sell it as a ACP chamber, that said, I don't intend to and I don't imagine you can drop in a factory round safely. I intend to use the brass and make my own custom round. I would order the .45LC cylinder but even if I made my own custom round it would still put it into the restricted category unfortunately. Once I find a donor I'll document the process and problems I encounter and post for anyone that wants to try as well. There is one in the EE now but my wife says not till after Christmas :( Maybe I'll get lucky and find one under the tree. although with my luck it would be a brass repo. LOL
 
WRENCHGOD, If you get the .45 ACP working,I'd be interested in the process too... And hey, a brass repro gives you most the parts you need!

CG
 
Hmm. I thought i read somewhere that the uberti parts fit the best, and that the pietta was much larger than the original. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So a new pietta barrel fits an original frame without re-threading?
 
Hmm. I thought i read somewhere that the uberti parts fit the best, and that the pietta was much larger than the original. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So a new pietta barrel fits an original frame without re-threading?

Uberti of all has the highest quality repros. Like, trigger pull and everything...but it is the pietta stuff that matches closer.
And yes, barrel thread right in...my last one even stopped sight top center when tight.

CG
 
Not sure if there is any truth to it but I have heard that Pietta's quality has gone up in the last couple of years due to the transition to CNC machining centres. Take that with a grain of salt as it sounds odd to me that they would have waited this long to make the transition.
 
Not sure if there is any truth to it but I have heard that Pietta's quality has gone up in the last couple of years due to the transition to CNC machining centres. Take that with a grain of salt as it sounds odd to me that they would have waited this long to make the transition.

I tend to believe that...pietta almost started out like Ruger... Pietta with an old colt and a lathe and mill in a garage. I have one of the first 1860 batch Piettas made, the serial # is low 3 digit instead of 5 and only the pietta (FAP)stamp in front of the trigger guard gives it away, barrel stamped Colt 1860 Army, and .44cal...no black powder only or made in italy. Comparing that thing to my 2014 Pietta 1860, Fit and finish is better these days, the tolerances are smaller and they shoot where you aim right out of the box whereas with the old one, i first had to correct the timing to make it shoot straight and stone the bottom of the frame front to close the barrel gap a little bit at least...Timing was a common issue on the Italians in the 70s and into the 80s ( except Uberti...they got it right from the beginning )



CG
 
I have one of the first 1860 batch Piettas made, the serial # is low 3 digit instead of 5 and only the pietta (FAP)stamp in front of the trigger guard gives it away, barrel stamped Colt 1860 Army, and .44cal...no black powder only or made in italy. CG

A lot of those turn into antiques in the States... A month or two in the horse barn will do that!
 
Way off topic but...I went through that with 1903 match Springfields in the early 90's. A very kind gentlemen from Michigan educated me fast! The Civil war guns are the same way. Gotta be careful of your purchases. Making $100 turn into a K had to be very tempting...
 
Could work...Taylor makes conversion cylinders for the 1858 in .45colt and the revolver seems to eat the 750 fps 250gr lead just fine. ( on a second thought, those I believe are 5 shot cylinders,which makes them a bit stronger)

CG

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Exclusively from Taylor’s & Co., these conversion cylinders are manufactured to fit Remington 1858 steel-frame revolvers by Uberti® or Pietta, in .36 or .44 calibers. One of the most popular conversions, this 6-shot cylinder converts 1858 .36 calibers to .38 SP and converts .44 calibers to .45 LC cowboy ammunition only. Taylor’s offers the only 6-shot 1858 Remington Conversion cylinder on the market.

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Exclusively from Taylor’s & Co., these conversion cylinders are manufactured to fit Remington 1858 steel-frame revolvers by Uberti® or Pietta, in .36 or .44 calibers. One of the most popular conversions, this 6-shot cylinder converts 1858 .36 calibers to .38 SP and converts .44 calibers to .45 LC cowboy ammunition only. Taylor’s offers the only 6-shot 1858 Remington Conversion cylinder on the market.

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Howell was the first to make the 6 shot and he still makes them. He was the patent holder on it due to the fact the cylinder bores are angled, not sure if the patent has expired yet. I'm starting to wonder if he is the one that makes them for Taylors. They offer the LC and the ACP for both.
 
A full six? Color me impressed now. I want!

CG

Yeah but all the new made ones no longer come with the safety notches on the back of the cylinder. They do have 5 shot ones that have the half way bolt notches so the hammer will rest in the same spot but I don't know if they have the same design in the 6 shot. I believe that the bolt notches only work if you purposely drop it into the half way spot and after that they index to the live round after that.
 
Using the piece on a hot summer day and my lube was a mix of Bore butter and beeswax soaked into the wad. Gun got warm enough ( I think)to melt the lube and partially soak the fffg and it just sounded a little flat when it went off- thumbed back and let the next one go and it bucked more than usual. Did not think any more on it -finished the round and packed up and went home. When cleaning that nite felt the bulge as I ran the patches thru and looking closely found a longitudinal split thru the Remington script on top of the barrel . Needless to say I now use a very hard dry lube on these treasures.
 
Using the piece on a hot summer day and my lube was a mix of Bore butter and beeswax soaked into the wad. Gun got warm enough ( I think)to melt the lube and partially soak the fffg and it just sounded a little flat when it went off- thumbed back and let the next one go and it bucked more than usual. Did not think any more on it -finished the round and packed up and went home. When cleaning that nite felt the bulge as I ran the patches thru and looking closely found a longitudinal split thru the Remington script on top of the barrel . Needless to say I now use a very hard dry lube on these treasures.

That sounds kinda familiar and I see you are in Vancouver. You're not by chance Skallagrim?
 
Nah, he isn't... Skallagrims user name on cgn is Skallagrim and he wasn't in Canada in 2008. Btw, his split barrel remington- I traded with him for my MAS, that's when I got the Idea with exchanging parts from italian repros. His had the original barrel with it and a pietta installed. First thing i did was ripping one of my piettas apart that needed it anyway and compared the barrels. Gave me the "Wow...look at that" expirience. And then I started digging deeper...and checked interchangeable parts on other revolvers too.

CG
 
Greetings to you both. I'm actually on Vancouver Island and am not Skallagrim altho' strangely enough I do know the chap who is also here on the island. Can't remember a deal with you Coachgun but memory can fade over the years. Cheers
 
Greetings to you both. I'm actually on Vancouver Island and am not Skallagrim altho' strangely enough I do know the chap who is also here on the island. Can't remember a deal with you Coachgun but memory can fade over the years. Cheers

Lol... remind me to work on my grammar..! Sure you wouldn't remember, as it was Skallagrim I dealt with.

CG
 
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