Request: lightweight 'survival rifle'.

I have barrel liners and the correct drill bit is on the way. I am deciding between aluminum and carbon fiber for the sleeve. I just need to get the sleeve machined somewhere because I on have a 7 inch bed on my lathe.

I am going to make a replacement 13" barrel for my Stevens 300F (same as original) and mount the whole thing in a collapsible aluminum skeleton stock that locks the bolt and
Trigger when collapsed. With the mp5 style stock collapsed the gun should be about 19". Not sure what the weight will be yet, but I doubt it will be less than 24 ounces.

I haven't figured out what to use for a pistol grip yet. I with either make a minimalist one from black delrin or I will attach a MOE at grip for the storage space if it's not too bulky. I am excited to see how this turns out

I will try my hand at making a receiver mounted peep sight when it's all done. That should give a sight radius of about 16.5"
 
BabySeal said:
I have barrel liners and the correct drill bit is on the way. I am deciding between aluminum and carbon fiber for the sleeve. I just need to get the sleeve machined somewhere because I on have a 7 inch bed on my lathe.

I am going to make a replacement 13" barrel for my Stevens 300F (same as original) and mount the whole thing in a collapsible aluminum skeleton stock that locks the bolt and
Trigger when collapsed. With the mp5 style stock collapsed the gun should be about 19". Not sure what the weight will be yet, but I doubt it will be less than 24 ounces.

I haven't figured out what to use for a pistol grip yet. I with either make a minimalist one from black delrin or I will attach a MOE at grip for the storage space if it's not too bulky. I am excited to see how this turns out

I will try my hand at making a receiver mounted peep sight when it's all done. That should give a sight radius of about 16.5"
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It should not be too hard to find a .22lr barrel about 9". Say if you took a factory .22lr barrel for some type of .22 pistol out there and adapted it to fit a Cooey 75, would that be kosher legally? Does anyone know?

Otherwise, I might be better off getting a Cooey replacement barrel.

*SORRY FOR THE DERAIL*
 
BabySeal said:
I will try my hand at making a receiver mounted peep sight when it's all done. That should give a sight radius of about 16.5"
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you sure thats a good use of your time?
Brownells has a ton of Williams peep sights for different actions starting at $28. you could simply adapt one of those.

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there is no way, even in a fully equipped machine shop, that you could build something like that for <$28 of your time, even if you were in Mexico.
 
That is a valid suggestion and those sights are probably finer than I could make. But since I am practically building this rifle from scratch it will be a point of pride if I can make an adjustable rear sight that I am happy with.
Failing my own creations, I will probably opt for a skinner sight. The express sight will be easier to install where I want it that the Williams sight and it looks to be more sturdy to me. Also, a taller front sight will likely be required because I am moving the rear sight up by almost 3/16". They have really nice; sturdy steel front sights with highly visible brass inserts that I really like. They are almost as bright as fiber optic sights, but infinitely tougher.

Btw, skinner makes a very nice set that fits TC guns...

I just priced out all the aluminum I need to make 2 kits. It's under $150. I just need an hour of machine time...

This looks like its going to be a rewarding project. If I am happy with how it comes out I will get the whole think armacoated or dipped by cobra imaging...
 
Anybody gave a look at the new savage rascal, 22lr single shot ,peep sight, 2.6 lbs with wooden stock (syntech. available) around $160.

I think this one will be modified a lot (cut stock plus foldind one added)
 
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i spend a lot of time in the back country by myself, so part of my survival kit includes.
a 22" barrel 12g NEF survivor [no longer available in 12g] with a 22lr insert adapter which is accurate enough for grouse. my set up is fully kitted out for multi-day survival firstaid and rescue.
will post pictures later, don't have the camera on hand right now.
 
I like the idea of a single-shot bolt action with a wire stock, personally.

For a weak round like a .22lr, you can just use the bolt handle as the locking lug.

Or hell, if you have the proper bolt mass, you don't even need a locking lug. It'd automatically eject the spent casing and all you'd have to do is place another round in the chamber, push the bolt forward and repeat.

Or you could place a return spring and just have a little bolt hold open. Insert a new round, release the bolt and plink away.
 
I got to page 11 before jumping to the end... what about a Kel Tec SUB2000?

Calibers: 9mm Luger 40 S&W
Weight unloaded: 4.0 lbs. 1.8kg
Length Open: 29.5" 749mm
Length Closed: 16" 406mm
Barrel length: 16.1" 408mm
Aperture rear, Circular hood, Adjustable front Practical range/ over : 150yds 150m

16" closed, it's not the .22LR you want but 9mm is pretty cheap and should obliderate small game too badly as well should take down larger game if needed. now it also has a 10 round mag.

just my $0.02
 
So, I've been thinking on this...

If you go with the return spring with bolt hold open, you could place the bolt release on the tang, have an underfolding wire stock and have it use 10/22 barrels for easy customization.
 
Survival Guns

So I registered on the forum specifically for this particular thread because I like the topic so much. I thought I'd share an article with you that fits this subject matter to a T. The link is for a relatively new Survival/Bushcraft online magazine, and the preview article is "Survival Guns".

Click on the link, and choose "preview". There is even an embedded video.

http://emag.esyngen.com/i/54825/2#

A pretty good article if you ask me
 
I use a Deutch Werke single shot .22 as my backpacker..weights next to nothing, accurate as hell, and plenty short.

I bought it off the EE for $60 shipped...needed some sanding, a paint job, and some bluing...cost me about $20 to get it in "nice" enough condition.
 
The T/C Hotshot has an overall length of 30", can obviously be taken down, and weighs a mere 3lbs. You could remove the butt plate and store ammo, fish hooks/line etc in the butt.

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Kel Tec is all kinds of bad for a survival gun IMHO!

All that plastic, and hinges make for a gun I would not depend on to hold up to anykind of damage.

In a survival situation you may be forced to use that gun for other things, or to whack something, and I would not trust most of the Kel Tec line with such a task.

For me, having had the pleasure of toting my brand new one across the woods the last week, it would hands down be a Ruger 77/357, or if you want the extra power a 77/44.

Weight is just over 5 pounds, synthetic/stainless cobo, and is so short and handy it just can't be beat, except possibly a 16 inch lever. ;)
 
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