*resolved* Our firearms too scary for Toronto Sportsman Show

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Nice work Tony.

So, the question now is, how do we get all our sponsers to get a booth at the Toronto Sportsmens Show and show off all the cool product we just love around here? What better way to take back the show then to get everyone out there with the guns that will get people excited?

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Great job CSSA! The BC sportsman and hunting show is the 1st week in March. Hopefully Italian sporting goods will be able to bring restricteds there this year too.
 
Woke up this morning to this email back from them. Very impressed that they even replied:

I am sending you our current position for your information.


We have reviewed the Toronto Sportsmen’s Show position on firearms and have adopted the following:



Exhibitors participating in the Toronto Sportsmen’s Show are permitted to display firearms approved by the CFO for legal sale in Canada.

Exhibitors must follow display regulations as prescribed by the CFO and receive CFO approval for same.



I believe this alleviates all concerns.



Walter Oster
 
You just gotta love it when a plans comes together.
Good on you for standing up to them.
Congrats, and I hope you do extremely well at the show.
What better way to say, I told you so!!!
 
Congratulations, great news for every hunter and shooter in Canada!
There's nothing bad or illegal about black rifles and we're finally winning in the public opinion.

Alex
 
We were looking to exhibit at the Toronto Sportsman Show; here is the response we received:

"I spoke it over with the Show Manager and the issue is that these rifles don’t look entirely like Hunting Rifles. I realize they can be used for that, but typically we don’t allow any rifles in the show which don’t have the distinctive look of a hunting rifle i.e. camouflage etc. We would therefore not allow these particular firearms to be in the show. One of the main reason is optics as we want to keep the show and Hunting Hall as items that can be clearly identified as hunting related items."

Somehow hot-tubs, paintball, airsoft and junk food are ok and are more in-line with what the sportsman show represents than "non-hunting looking" firearms.

*Update*
It appears they have reversed their position. They are now permitting firearms as long as they are non-restricted. We have inquired about restricted firearms and will await their response. We would imagine that restricted firearms would fall under the "all facets of outdoor sport".

"The Toronto Sportsmen’s Show is celebrating its 65th Anniversary this year. During this period we have provided a First Class venue to display and promote all facets of outdoor sport and activity. Our relationship with the gun manufacturers has been positive throughout the period and the relationship continues. Tactical Imports (must be a Firearms Licensed Business and meet the requirements of the Chief Firearms Office), will be permitted to display firearms at the 2012 Toronto Sportsmen’s Show, provided they are Chief Firearms Office, classified non-restricted, for sale in Canada."

*Update 2*
They have responded; and are adminant they will not allow restricted firearms into the show

*Update 3*
CSSA stepped in. Needless to say restricted firearms are now permitted at the show.

AMAZING NEWS!!!! It's about time the business world recognised the power that hunters and shooters have. Now if we could just get together on some of the larger issues, we will see a better day for firearms and firearms owners in Canada
 
Target Sports set up a booth about 4 or 5 years ago. However, we took so much grief from 1) The CFO and 2) The organizers because of the restricted and black guns that we have not gone back.

Well, now that restricteds are A-OK, are you going to go back now???? We all want to know.



FYI: CSSA has now become involved with this issue. More later.

EDIT: RESOLVED, this just in from the Toronto Sportsmans Show.

Hi Tony,

We have reviewed the Toronto Sportsmen’s Show position on firearms this morning and have adopted the following:

Exhibitors participating in the Toronto Sportsmen’s Show are permitted to display firearms approved by the CFO for legal sale in Canada.
Exhibitors must follow display regulations as prescribed by the CFO and receive CFO approval for same.

I believe this alleviates any of your concerns.

EXCELLENT JOB TONY!!!! I hope all the dealers who will be there that also sell restricted guns will now have a nice display and items for sale. Al Flaherty's, TI, Target Sports, SFRC, QUESTAR, it could be restricted gun heaven.
 
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The Halifax Sports show is in a couple of weeks and for as long as I can remember there have always been guns from various local vendors there. Frankly without them I would have no reason to go.
Also hard to believe that The Gun Dealer from NB isn't going to be there. Guess they are busy enough.
 
Sent this email to Mitch


I had occasion to be reading about a company called Tactical Imports that was denied space at the TSS this year. I have no affiliation to this company and have never purchased product from them, though I may start. I don't know if this is an exact quote, but the reply from your office was along the lines of;

"I spoke it over with the Show Manager and the issue is that these rifles don’t look entirely like Hunting Rifles. I realize they can be used for that, but typically we don’t allow any rifles in the show which don’t have the distinctive look of a hunting rifle i.e. camouflage etc. We would therefore not allow these particular firearms to be in the show. One of the main reason is optics as we want to keep the show and Hunting Hall as items that can be clearly identified as hunting related items"

As a hunter, as a sports shooter, a parent and a long time attendee of the show I was a little surprised at your repsonse to their inquiry. I suppose having Sham Wow and the Toronto Star (a very anti firearm rag) and other businesses that have absolutely NOTHING to do with the "spirit" of this show would be better candidates for floor space. I am disheartened to hear that Remington, Savage, Hamilton Tactical among others won't be able to attend as they displayed products, last year, including firearms that have no realistic use for hunting. You would probably recognize these as the "big scary looking guns". My son will be saddened that there will be no paintball product there in the hunting hall this year, I always enjoy the girls from Sgt Splatters. Fine examples of the spirit of hunting.

It's a shame that the show has gone this route and all these vendors won't be able to attend. I guess myself and my family and my VISA card will just have to skip this years show.

A shame really

We're glad you thought of us, but to be clear, Hamilton Tactical will be exhibiting at the Sportsmen's Show in the Hunting Hall!
 
I hate those hunter guys who look funny at you when you have restricted firearms. I was told at D&R in Thunder Bay, that a ( none restricted part is the best ) M14 is not a hunting rifle but a man killer. Get a real hunting rifle. I was like WTF. I only go their for fishing gear, but I refuse to buy any firearm related products.

Who the hell was that guy to tell me what I should hunt with, as longest it is within Canadian law.
 
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