Restricted Storeage Question

[legi0n]

I'm no lawyer, but I asked CFC regarding the definition of a container and storage in such containers, and she replied to me as any opaque object that encases your firearm in a safe manner is considered a "container". She said I must secure the container with a lock so that it is hard to break into.

The box that comes with the pistol seems pretty fragile. If I were to put one in a container, I'll trust a Pelican case more than I trust the factory box.

Why? Do you think a pelican case would prevent anyone from retrieving the content?
Read my other posts on similar threads. It's not the intent of the law to prevent your guns from being stolen but rather to prevent you from quick access to guns and ammo.
Therefore the size and strength of the container/cabinet/safe/vault/room are irrelevant.

 

[legi0n]

As per storage regulation for restricteds:

- Attach a secure locking device so the firearms cannot be fired and lock them in a cabinet, container or room that is hard to break into;

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Would a lockable pistol case/box supplied by the manufacturer be considered as "container"?

yes

 

[bnichols]

I agree with Promac, in that the initial decision is up to the inspecting officer, and if the officer's decision goes against you you're guilty until proven innocent.

However, according to the letter of the law you can store an unlocked & unloaded restricted firearm together with ammunition (i.e., a loaded mag) in an adequate container, and furthermore (according to the NFA http://www.nfa.ca/node/132)

A sheet metal gun safe, or other locked metal container fits the description of "safe" in Black's Law Dictionary. So does the thick-walled fireproof box with a combination dial that most people think of when they think of a “safe.

e.g., http://www.locksaf.com/biometric-pistol-safes

In the long run it may boil down to how quickly you want to access the firearm and make it ready, and whether you understand and are prepared to live with the consequences of such an arrangement, whatever they may be.

 

[cyclone]

As per storage regulation for restricteds:

- Attach a secure locking device so the firearms cannot be fired and lock them in a cabinet, container or room that is hard to break into;

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Would a lockable pistol case/box supplied by the manufacturer be considered as "container"?

My RPAL instructor said that (in addition to being trigger-locked) if a restricted was in a range-bag with both zippers locked together , that'd be okay......

 

[promac]

Careless storage is most difficult to prove.
And really, have you ever heard of anyone charged in Canada for being the victim of theft?

Actually, yes - especially here in Ontario. It's the holy grail of the TPS and their gun-grabbing initiatives. With all due respect, where have you been? Do you read the papers?

However, I believe most charges are eventually aquitted. Nonetheless, it requires a lot of money, time and effort, not to mention the stress, in getting to that end.

 

[Sp0r3]

Why? Do you think a pelican case would prevent anyone from retrieving the content?
Read my other posts on similar threads. It's not the intent of the law to prevent your guns from being stolen but rather to prevent you from quick access to guns and ammo.
Therefore the size and strength of the container/cabinet/safe/vault/room are irrelevant.

It's not a matter of security that I have faith in Pelican cases (I don't as they can be easily taken away by anyone with a set of hands). What I do trust Pelican is the strength of the case itself. I have personally used Pelican cases for storing semi-precious/impact sensitive items. They do live up to their name. They have this ruggedness which the factory box doesn't give me. If all you want is something to hide your restricted firearm with, the factory box does a good job of it. But don't plan on it protecting your goods inside when you accidentally drop it.