Results are in vote for the 10 best/desired WW2 firearms

Pick 3 of the best

  • Bren Gun

    Votes: 63 26.1%

  • MP 44

    Votes: 73 30.3%

  • PPSH SMG

    Votes: 38 15.8%

  • M1 Garand

    Votes: 125 51.9%

  • 1911 45acp pistol

    Votes: 63 26.1%

  • Browning 9mm pistol

    Votes: 34 14.1%

  • Lee Enfield

    Votes: 81 33.6%

  • Thompsom SMG

    Votes: 48 19.9%

  • MG 42

    Votes: 100 41.5%

  • SVT Semi Auto Rifle

    Votes: 27 11.2%
  • Total voters
    241
mg42
ppsh
bren
Gotta love the mg42 , most bad@ss looking one i think, along with the ppsh. I just got a thing for that whole stamped steel look with ventilation holes in the shroud :D. Chose bren last because it seems so under rated! I think its a really neat looking gun, i've seen some beautiful pictures of rebuilds down south of the border , i want one :)...
 
WOW 157 people voted so far, so how long should I let this poll go for till I do one with the finall top 5?
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I think you're close. I don't see the top 5 there changing much(right now it's M1, MG42, LE, MP44, Bren). In the next poll you should only allow one vote, I think you'll see a big difference in the order.
 
I just wanted to give the members a chance / oppertuinty to pick a rifle,smg pistol or Mg. brake down like in a section level,

maybe i should just do the top 3
 
Well it was on the American poll I had going at the same time as the Brit, German and Russian poll , but it got so little votes. So I only took the higgest voted for firearms of the four nations.
 
maybe i should just do the top 3
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I'd do the top 5. The top 3 here are greatly inflated I think because they were everyone's second or third choice. Give us a top 5 with one vote each and I guarantee a very different result!
 
ok than, when it reaches 200 members who have voted, i will do what you ask, top 5, and one vote, or how about two votes only, one has to have a main firearm and a close defence weapon.
 
ok than, when it reaches 200 members who have voted, i will do what you ask, top 5, and one vote, or how about two votes only, one has to have a main firearm and a close defence weapon.
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Lol, it's your poll of course so you can do whichever way you'd like but personally I'd bring it down to one vote at this point. Let's find out the one weapon people would want if they could only have the one and they were holding their life in their hands.
 
TGC said:
Well it was on the American poll I had going at the same time as the Brit, German and Russian poll , but it got so little votes. So I only took the higgest voted for firearms of the four nations.
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Seriously?

I am continually disappointed with CGN.
 
Recce21 said:
SKS is based off the PTRS design. Maybe the furniture is off the SVT-40 design.
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And what is the PTRS designed from? Considering one of Simonov's direct supervisors before he created his designs was Tokarev do you think there could possibly be some influence? :D Siminov first created the AVS-36 before the PTRS. Work on the AVS-36 began in 1930, the same time as Tokarev began working on his semi auto gas system. Some differences between the designs but look at the pictures and decide:

AVS-36
The AVS-36 was a gas-operated rifle with a short piston stroke and vertical sliding locking block

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Tokarev SVT38 (predecessor to the SVT40)

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The AVS-36 came before the SVT38 however the design times were about the same, with Siminov's design winning the first competition and Tokarev winning the second.

The SVT38 was a gas-operated weapon with a short-stroke, spring-loaded piston above the barrel and a tilting bolt. According to Wikipedia "There is some dispute about who exactly first developed this operating principle, as the SVT's mechanism closely resembles Dieudonne Saive's contemporary designs; Saive eventually designed the FN FAL, which employs the same operating principle as the SVT".

Of particular note was that "The SKS is a gas-operated weapon that has a spring-loaded operating rod and a gas piston rod that work the action via gas pressure pushing against them. Also, it has a "tilting bolt" action locking system (Wikipedia). Note that this is the same system as the SVT38 and SVT40 unlike the very similar previous design by Siminov the AVS-36 which didn't use a tilting bolt action.

Now ad in the fact that the SVT40 was pretty much the only successful semi auto rifle on the Eastern front. The Germans tried to copy it with their semi auto but didn't meet with as much success.

When you look at the STG44 system, you might want to think where some of that inspiration came from. The German's semi auto system was copied from the SVT40 when their designs failed. I don't have a STG44 but my CZ858 which more closely resembles the STG44 than the AK has an eerie resemblance to my SVT40 rifles.

I personally believe the SVT40 was the great grandfather of the current assault rifles. With the German STG44 (and prototypes) being the father of the modern assault rifle.
 
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