Revolver Teams at 2009 Canadain IPSC Nationals

But Mo, your Tanfoglio shirt is much nicer than any of the others. Let me know next time you are placing an order, we could probably get Rob to join in as well.
 
4string said:
But Mo, your Tanfoglio shirt is much nicer than any of the others. Let me know next time you are placing an order, we could probably get Rob to join in as well.
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Not to sound ungratefull....but I like my shirts better too;)
They (Joe at Techwear) have the shirt on file,...just call em' up and make the changes you would like.
 
maurice said:
WAIT a Second,.....you mean to tell me people actually get funded to go shoot at Nationals??:eek:
I remember getting shirts and a jacket,......which was cool. I don't recall getting funded.

Also,..actually,..there were more NB revolver shooters last year at our provincials than NB Open shooters. FYI,...so......;)
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The funding isn't that big a deal... In BC, we basically get 2 shirts and an amount that covers our match fee (or comes close to it).

As for Open...we also have lower attendance of Open Shooters at our matches. In 2006 (the year for which 2007 team selection was based) we had 188 entries in Open division over the course of the year. Compare that with 380 in Standard and 235 in Production. (People that shot 2 matches in open are counted as 2 entries). At the 2007 Nationals, of the people that completed the match, 74 were in Open, 80 in Standard and 58 in Production. By and large, the people that are more serious about competition and traveling are in Open division. I'm not saying that Production division doesn't have serious competitors; I'm saying that proportionately, more Production division people shoot locally for fun and are not interested in attending Nationals.
 
Filthy1 said:
I think that precedence has been set with the recognition of Production Division… If the participation level has reached the levels of when Production Division was recognized I am all for it.

If recognition is happening because 8-12 guys are dusting off their old wheel guns (or begging their buddies to shoot R.S. Division) for the Nationals, then I think that is pretty sad… especially if teams are being equally funded.

And I will say again… if the participation level in R.S. Division is coming on par to when Production Division was “recognized for ring, team trophies…” at Canadian Nationals way back when… then I am all for it.
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Quigley said:
There have been no Discussions about Championship rings...just team trophies. No one thinks that RS is going to equal the rise of Prod...but we should acknowlege...that we can do better...
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What was the # of participants when Prod was recognizied?

Is that why everyone jumped on the Prod wagon (That shot another division) to have a easier chance of winning a Ring? :popCorn:

Cheers
BMW
 
bmw said:
What was the # of participants when Prod was recognizied?

Is that why everyone jumped on the Prod wagon (That shot another division) to have a easier chance of winning a Ring? :popCorn:

Cheers
BMW
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35 competitors.

and probably not most, but some people did.
 
People can joke all they want but at most big matches, the split is petty well 1/3 between open, Standard and Production.

As for revolver in IPSC, it is almost like shooting IPSC on Geritol, except that has been claimed by another discipline :}

We had the grand total of three revolver shooters register for the 2008 nationals and two showed up
 
Walter Hornby said:
People can joke all they want but at most big matches, the split is petty well 1/3 between open, Standard and Production.

As for revolver in IPSC, it is almost like shooting IPSC on Geritol, except that has been claimed by another discipline :}

We had the grand total of three revolver shooters register for the 2008 nationals and two showed up
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plus one unfortunately Dq'd
 
Ontario Gold revolver????? How was the team picked? Take the only 4 people who shoot a revolver on a regular basis?? To give a revolver team equal support as Open/standard/production isn't right. There isn't enough participation to justify it. Did last years provincials even have enough revo shooters to get a pres medal? If we consistently get 10 revo guys at level 2's then I would be on board for this but we don't. For open/standard/production we send our best 4 out of 100+ for each division, revo will be more like a default situation: hey, you're shooting a revolver you're on the team. Kind of takes away from the concept.
 
Revolvers at 2008 Nationals

Walter,

There were actually four revolver shooters at the 2008 Nationals but one DQ'd on the last stage. At matches we have run in Kingston there have been 9 or 10 revolver shooters.

Thanks for the support.
 
you are correct it was 4. i am on the road presently (enjoying sunny Florida after shooting the open) and i hadn't thought to check the results to confirm the numbers before posting.
 
personally i think we need to have between 1/4 and 1/3 of the average nationals entry before we start crowning any Canadian champs. if my memory serves me correctly that is where the magic number of 35 came from for production.
 
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Walter Hornby said:
personally i think we need to have between 1/4 and 1/3 of the average nationals entry before we start crowning any Canadian champs. if my memory serves me correctly that is where the magic number of 35 came from for production.
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Walter I agree to a point. Yes we should have at least 1/4 of the average at the Nationals

However not 1/4 of the national entry. But 1/4 of the Nations (Canada) active Revolver shooters entered. So in saying that with 4 from NB and 4 from ON and the #'s of active Rev shooters that have been reported by the two sections (5 NB / 15 ON) you already exceed 1/4 - 1/3.

Just to get a reading on this what are the actual # of active Rev shooters per section? (supported by posted scores)

Anyway on top of all this P*SSING and MOANING about the right to be recognized. Let's look at the "Rule Book Appendix A2" It only takes 10 members to enter.

IPSC Recognition
Prior to the commencement of a match, the organizers must specify which Division(s) will be recognized.
Unless otherwise specified, IPSC sanctioned matches will recognize Divisions and Categories based on the number of
registered competitors who actually compete in the match, based on the following criteria:
1. Divisions
Level I & II ............ A minimum of 5 competitors per Division (recommended)
Level III ................. A minimum of 10 competitors per Division (mandatory)
Level IV & V ......... A minimum of 20 competitors per Division (mandatory)

RANT OFF :popCorn:

Cheers
BMW
 
Just to be clear...there have been no discussions on providing the same level of awards for Revolver as for the other Divisions. There will be no Large trophies...or rings...just Team trophies (assuming two or more teams are entered)...and a Presidents Medal (assuming there are 10 registered Revolver Shooters)

Some of you folks need to find something else to ##### about...

I'm not sure if your defeatist, elitist...or both :cool:
 
Thanks Quigley,

You've just redeemed this funny sport for me....at least for a while. Maybe I'll pony up my dues for another year.


Anyone know where a fella can find a 625 on the cheap?


Quigley said:
Just to be clear...there have been no discussions on providing the same level of awards for Revolver as for the other Divisions. There will be no Large trophies...or rings...just Team trophies (assuming two or more teams are entered)...and a Presidents Medal (assuming there are 10 registered Revolver Shooters)

Some of you folks need to find something else to ##### about...

I'm not sure if your defeatist, elitist...or both :cool:
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