Rework a Marlin 795, or succumb to the 10/22?

I like my 10/22. I have tried other brands but have gone back to the Ruger. No real major reason why, other then I started with the Ruger and got comfortable with it...and just don't feel like switching.
 
Wow. I'm somewhat surprised to see all the Marlin support here. I've always known they are good - I've owned three, and they've all been good out of the box. But I figured the 10/22 would come out on top in this thread. I think I'll spend some time and money to make my 795 more to my liking, thanks in large part to the input here. Maybe one day I'll grab a 10/22 to compare, but not until time allows for it. Thanks everyone!

(More comments always welcome!)
 
does the Marlin 795 have the same 'no magazine no fire' safety that the 70PSS Papoose has?
cause if so that is a deal breaker for me.

i loooooooooooooooooooooath firearms that wont wont shoot if you dont have the magazine.
 
wayupnorth said:
does the Marlin 795 have the same 'no magazine no fire' safety that the 70PSS Papoose has?
cause if so that is a deal breaker for me.

i loooooooooooooooooooooath firearms that wont wont shoot if you dont have the magazine.
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Yes, both actions have a magazine disconnect. Curious though, what good is a semi auto without a mag? A bolt action sure, I get the annoyance but a semi? You're going to draw the bolt back and hold it open while you manually load a round, just to shoot one round?
I'm not sure why it bothers you so much, as I don't see much benefit to having a single shot blowback action. Besides, magazines are cheap as... buy a few spares. Seems like a ridiculous reason to call it a " deal breaker"... Maybe I'm missing something?
 
wayupnorth said:
dont jinx me man!!!!
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wayupnorth said:
does the Marlin 795 have the same 'no magazine no fire' safety that the 70PSS Papoose has?
cause if so that is a deal breaker for me.

i loooooooooooooooooooooath firearms that wont wont shoot if you dont have the magazine.
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Yah, it has the no-mag trigger disconnect. 30 seconds to disable it, and reversible to take it back to factory if you want to resell it.

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mikeystew said:
Yes, both actions have a magazine disconnect. Curious though, what good is a semi auto without a mag? A bolt action sure, I get the annoyance but a semi? You're going to draw the bolt back and hold it open while you manually load a round, just to shoot one round?
I'm not sure why it bothers you so much, as I don't see much benefit to having a single shot blowback action. Besides, magazines are cheap as... buy a few spares. Seems like a ridiculous reason to call it a " deal breaker"... Maybe I'm missing something?
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anything that can go wrong will.
which for me means im gonna loose the mag of the gun that has the magazine disconnect, guaranteed!
i wake up late at night in a cold swear fearing i cant shoot something because my magazine dropped out and the gun wont shoot.
we all have our 'things', mine is magazine disconnects.

just ask Constable Strongquill how good magazine disconnects work.... oh wait we cant, he died when his gun dropped the magazine and he could not shoot his gun to save his life.
extreme case i know but its a deal breaker for me.
 
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wayupnorth said:
anything that can go wrong will.
which for me means im gonna loose the mag of the gun that has the magazine disconnect, guaranteed!
i wake up late at night in a cold swear fearing i cant shoot something because my magazine dropped out and the gun wont shoot.
we all have our 'things', mine is magazine disconnects.

just ask Constable Strongquill how good magazine disconnects work.... oh wait we cant, he died when his gun dropped the magazine and he could not shoot his gun to save his life.
extreme case i know but its a deal breaker for me.
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Don't take this the wrong way, but is it possible you are just a little bias toward the ruger and that is blinding you from thinking rationally? As was posted earlier, it takes all of 30 seconds to disable/remove the magazine disconnect. And if you seriously think you might need to use a papoose or 795 to save your life one day but can't because you might accidentally lose or drop the mag... Well... I think you should maybe splash some cold water on your face and go for a nice walk in the country or something,... You're overthinking things.
 
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Forget a ruger, buy a Dlask DAR-22, if you're going to get a "loaded" 10/22, this is about the same price, and much better quality. I'm a fan of the Marlin, but prefer my 10/22's.
 
mikeystew said:
Don't take this the wrong way, but is it possible you are just a little bias toward the ruger and that is blinding you from thinking rationally? As was posted earlier, it takes all of 30 seconds to disable/remove the magazine disconnect. And if you seriously think you might need to use a papoose or 795 to save your life one day but can't because you might accidentally lose or drop the mag... Well... I think you should maybe splash some cold water on your face and go for a nice walk in the country or something,... You're overthinking things.
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you've never dropped or lost a magazine before?
if you answer yes to that then you don't shoot enough.
and ill be the first to admit im biased towards 10/22's and for good reason, they are better.
you dont often hear of people being biased towards AMC Gremlins, why would a person want to be biased towards something that is yucky?

haha, its a gun, its all personal preference, anyone that takes offense to an opinion on which gun is better over the internet should probably not be allowed on said internet.
question was asked what people thought of the 22's in the OP, i registered my opinion, a lot of which has to do with the magazine disconnect.
a lot of people will not buy or shoot Ruger 22/45 Lite's for the very same reason, do you think they should go outside for a walk as well?
and if i did go for a walk it wouldn't be with a gun that had a magazine disconnect on it!
(had to get that in there!)
 
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wayupnorth said:
you've never dropped or lost a magazine before?
if you answer yes to that then you don't shoot enough.
and ill be the first to admit im biased towards 10/22's and for good reason, they are better.
you dont often hear of people being biased towards AMC Gremlins, why would a person want to be biased towards something that is yucky?

haha, its a gun, its all personal preference, anyone that takes offense to an opinion on which gun is better over the internet should probably not be allowed on said internet.
question was asked what people thought of the 22's in the OP, i registered my opinion, a lot of which has to do with the magazine disconnect.
a lot of people will not buy or shoot Ruger 22/45 Lite's for the very same reason, do you think they should go outside for a walk as well?
and if i did go for a walk it wouldn't be with a gun that had a magazine disconnect on it!
(had to get that in there!)
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Lol, I'm not offended man, I don't care who wants to like what kind of gun. I just think the disconnect thing is a silly reason to be a deal breaker is all, especially since it's easily bypassed. Besides, it's a .22 plinker/hunting rifle, not a personal defence rifle.

One thing you're right about is that I don't get to shoot enough these days, that's mostly a result of my desire to work too much than anything, and I frankly have too many hobbies. But no, I've never lost a mag, or accidentally dropped one while shooting. What can I say... I like to take good care of my gun stuff and not misplace or damage things. I don't run around on the range playing tommy tactical dropping mags etc, and I've absolutely never had one just fall out of the gun by accident.

As for the 10/22 I've briefly owned one and shot several, but none of them were anywhere near close to being as accurate as a Marlin, which for me is a BIG deal breaker. What I will say about them is they are very robust, well built and dependable guns that go bang every time. They're reliable and really customizable which I guess is a plus for some people... If I was more of a spendthrift I know I could make a very accurate one, but given the choice between a basic model 10/22 or a 795, i'd grab the Marlin every time. Every one I've owned has been as dependable as a 10/22 but way more accurate. And clearly I'm not the only one, as is evidenced by the clear overall bias toward the Marlin in this thread.
 
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Lol, I'm not offended man, I don't care who wants to like what kind of gun. I just think the disconnect thing is a silly reason to be a deal breaker is all, especially since it's easily bypassed. Besides, it's a .22 plinker/hunting rifle, not a personal defence rifle.

One thing you're right about is that I don't get to shoot enough these days, that's mostly a result of my desire to work too much than anything, and I frankly have too many hobbies. But no, I've never lost a mag, or accidentally dropped one while shooting. What can I say... I like to take good care of my gun stuff and not misplace or damage things. I don't run around on the range playing tommy tactical dropping mags etc, and I've absolutely never had one just fall out of the gun by accident.

As for the 10/22 I've briefly owned one and shot several, but none of them were anywhere near close to being as accurate as a Marlin, which for me is a BIG deal breaker. What I will say about them is they are very robust, well built and dependable guns that go bang every time. They're reliable and really customizable which I guess is a plus for some people... If I was more of a spendthrift I know I could make a very accurate one, but given the choice between a basic model 10/22 or a 795, i'd grab the Marlin every time. Every one I've owned has been as dependable as a 10/22 but way more accurate. And clearly I'm not the only one, as is evidenced by the clear overall bias toward the Marlin in this thread.
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im tempted to pick up a full sized marlin 795.

i had never shot a marlin till this last couple months when i picked up a 70OSS Papoose and have been running it head to head against the ruger 10/22 take down.
sad to say with all the hype about the marlins the one i picked up has made a sad showing and is not an accurate gun at all.
i fear i picked up a lemon.

so im tempted to invest a couple beans into a 795 and see if i can get better results out of it.
i hear so much about how accurate they are and the micro grooves and such.

but then ive had fantastic results with 10/22's for the last 33 years its hard to turn away from something that is working so well.

knowing me ill pick one up, im a sucker for testing stuff.
 
wayupnorth said:
im tempted to pick up a full sized marlin 795.

i had never shot a marlin till this last couple months when i picked up a 70OSS Papoose and have been running it head to head against the ruger 10/22 take down.
sad to say with all the hype about the marlins the one i picked up has made a sad showing and is not an accurate gun at all.
i fear i picked up a lemon.

so im tempted to invest a couple beans into a 795 and see if i can get better results out of it.
i hear so much about how accurate they are and the micro grooves and such.

but then ive had fantastic results with 10/22's for the last 33 years its hard to turn away from something that is working so well.

knowing me ill pick one up, im a sucker for testing stuff.
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I will say, I haven't bought a Remington made Marlin so I don't know if they're still as good as they once were. The papoose was easily the most accurate semi I've ever shot, grouping under a quarter and quite often nickel sized groups at 50m, I posted a couple pics of groups I shot with mine in your pack rifle thread. But the barrel to reciever fit is something that needs to be, and quite obviously was finished by hand on the Marlin produced one I had. And I know Remington cut out several labour intensive steps in the manufacturing process when they took over production and IIRC didn't even produce papooses for a long time because they couldnt do it properly and cost effectively.

I'm sure the 795/60 series was a much smoother transition. And honestly I really want to like the 10/22, I just can't justify their higher cost considering the accuracy I've seen from them. But the action is without any shadow of a doubt better built and much more simple and refined than the marlin. Working on Marlin actions nearly required an engineering degree, there are so many bits and pieces between the two action plates. It's a much more complicated rifle IMHO. And if I'm being really honest, one thing that DOES bother me about the Marlin is the cheap metal used for the magazine guide. If the gun is dropped from a height and lands on the magazine it can break the tabs on the guide that hold it in the action plates. That was always a bit of a turn off for me. No doubt it's a cheaper gun... It's just that they work really well. Super reliable feeding and surprisingly accurate at half the cost.

3-4 years ago when I was still buying new .22's they were $119 out the door for a 795, and the 10/22 was closer to $300, and they were less accurate. It just made more sense to me to buy the more accurate gun and pick up a couple spare mag guides just in case.
 
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i wonder if that is why my new papoose is not very accurate.
its a Remy made one.

now i kinda want to get a older one and see.
when did remy take over Marlin???
 
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