RFB - best.. rifle.. ever.

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The RFB is the Ferrari of rifles. I was surprised by the heft of it when I first held it - it was like holding a solid chunk of metal, and yet when aimed, it was extremely well balanced like all bullpups are.

At first I was a bit wary of the gas adjustment setting, but after figuring it out, I realized it was ingenious! This was the only rifle (that I know) that could adjust felt recoil. Fantastic! I started off with a heavy recoil and then adjusted the gas setting while I was sighting it until the recoil became mild. Love it!

I feel the RFB is the next evolution of rifle design. The design is so out of the box and yet completely reliable. I enjoy going over the features of the rifle because each one is so well designed and made.

As for the accuracy, the accuracy is excellent. It's not as good as my bolt action, but it's close enough. The only problem I had was with the 5 round magazine - it can only fit 4 rounds. If I put in 5 rounds, the magazine won't insert into the gun.

I'm also extremely happy with the optic I chose for it: a Bushnell Elite 1.25-4 with red dot. I think this product is superior to an Aimpoint red dot + x3 magnifier option. Not only is the Bushnell more compact and lighter, but it's quicker to acquire target and easier to adjust. I'll go so far as to say that for a civilian application, the larger Aimpoints (eg M4) are a significantly inferior choice - not only are they heavy, and large but they don't have any magnification and they don't work when the battery runs out. The Bushnell elite on the other hand will continue to work without batteries, have contrasting reticule, and has adjustable magnification. I can see the argument for having a T1 though, since it is small and light.

I have a T1 with magnifier and at x3 magnified, the red "dot" becomes a horizontal line. I figured the middle of the line is where I'm supposed to be the point of aim but it's not precise and it's distorted and blurry depending on the angle I look at it. But with the Bushnell, magnified or not, the reticule and red dot are the same size.

I am extremely happy with the combination. If anyone is seriously interested in a Tavor, I suggest you look at the RFB instead. The RFB is a much better design. The Tavor releases gases right in your face/eyes and is not ambidextrous out of the box - you have to buy a different bolt and then go through some trouble to convert the ejection port. The RFB on the other hand is ambidextrous by design in every way and does not release gases in your face, has a match grade trigger (unlike the mushy Tavor trigger) and it shoots the manly 308 round. The RFB is the perfect rifle IMO. In fact I would say the RFB is worth every penny, but the Tavor price is artificially jacked up - the military version costs a fraction of the Canadian export price.

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I have the RFB too and love it. The key is setting the gas. The first time I took it out, it was unreliable and I was ticked off. Took it home, read up on it, then returned and set the gas. Not an issue since then. It's Non-Restricted, .308, short and well balanced. Great gun for hunting or just blasting at the range.

Mine shoots about 3 MOA with the cheapo norc .308 ammo. Good enough for off-hand shooting and hunting. I think the accuracy could be better, but I don't reload and I haven't tried a bunch of ammo either (it might be the NORC ammo). I only notice it if I'm shooting from a bench. There aren't a lot of shooting benches in the real world though....
 
I have the RFB too and love it. The key is setting the gas. The first time I took it out, it was unreliable and I was ticked off. Took it home, read up on it, then returned and set the gas. Not an issue since then. It's Non-Restricted, .308, short and well balanced. Great gun for hunting or just blasting at the range.

Mine shoots about 3 MOA with the cheapo norc .308 ammo. Good enough for off-hand shooting and hunting. I think the accuracy could be better, but I don't reload and I haven't tried a bunch of ammo either (it might be the NORC ammo). I only notice it if I'm shooting from a bench. There aren't a lot of shooting benches in the real world though....
my post in another thread

RFB, 100yds, 180gr factory loaded nosler partitions.

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I am really interested in the RFB, but right now, the turn off is the mag factor. I wish they made them to take .308 PMAGs.

Also, the fact that you're able to shoot 180gr. bullets through your RFB is awesome.
 
It's heavy and 5 rounds only gets old..

It may be the "perfect rifle", but the magazines are less than perfect. What are you going to do? You're not going to have everything perfect.

As for heavy, it's the price for the features you get. It's lighter than the Swiss Arms SG550 by 1 pound and all the SA weight is at the front.

Anyway, what are you suggesting? .223 caliber? That's the only rifle caliber I know that allows >10 rounds. I can't bring myself to own a .223 caliber rifle.
 
When they make one in 5.56 many of us will probably buy one.

I read somewhere that they have no intention of entering the "overcrowded" 5.56 market, so I wouldn't hold your breath. Shame, because I'd be all over this if they did. I really hate having to get a new caliber when there are other rifles chambered in one I have.
 
If only it was reasonably priced in canada :(

If you've never held or shot one you opinion means nothing and your more than likely going with the "I heard from a guy that it's too much for a plastic gun". If you have held one and especially if you've stripped one you will quickly realize that it is mostly steel and only the lower stock is polymer. Even better is that the steel used is military grade barrel steel and other high end metals and not just stamped sheet metal.

What do you think would be a "reasonable" price?
I would have paid $3000 and not regretted it at all. Don't forget to add $1000 for a scope to complete the package.
Compared to? XCR-M? Hmmm, same price, I own an RFB and have shot the XCR-M back to back and I prefer the RFB for everything other than shooting off the bench at the range.
You gotta pay to play in this game.
Are there other options out there for a non restricted semi auto 308 other than the XCR-M? Hmmm... One more on the way but it will be the same price maybe more. Looks like a Swiss Arms but until someone has held one and gives a report on how it shoots I'll pass. My Swiss Arms classic green was not the super accurate non restricted semi auto 223 everyone ranted about so I traded it off. It was a very well built rifle but the accuracy was lacking. I doubt the new batch coming in will be any different.


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Heavy? how much should a 308 semi auto weigh? That weight helps tame the recoil on a rifle in such a compact platform. Does it weigh any more than any other semi auto 308 available?
You live in the wrong country if you don't like 5 rounds, that rule applies to every semi auto out there other than rifles using AR-15 pistol mags and even at that 10 isn't much better so how is 5 rounds a negative to owning this rifle?
We would all love to be able to run 20 and 30 round mags in them but realistically all that would do is cost a lot more in ammo.

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Mags are not that hard to find and all of mine feed perfectly. Yes it would be nice if they took pmags but the FAL mags work fine. I have 4 Thermold, a couple DSA 5/20's, and a DSA 5/30 and all of them have been 100% so far.
 
The RFB is the Ferrari of rifles. I was surprised by the heft of it when I first held it - it was like holding a solid chunk of metal, and yet when aimed, it was extremely well balanced like all bullpups are.

Before you ask, yes I have shot an RFB. It was ok, but nothing fantastic.

The AR platform is a vastly better rifle than the RFB ever thought of being. AR's being restricted here is the only thing that makes most of the non-restricted black rifles look reasonable in comparison. How many of us can honestly say we would pick a RobArms or Kel-Tec anything over a quality AR if we could take the AR anywhere we wanted to?


Mark
 
I am really interested in the RFB, but right now, the turn off is the mag factor. I wish they made them to take .308 PMAGs.
The thermold mags would be similar in price to the Pmags but unfortunately there is no canadian distributor that I could find bringing them in so you have to source them other ways increasing the price. They do work perfectly though.
 
Before you ask, yes I have shot an RFB. It was ok, but nothing fantastic.

The AR platform is a vastly better rifle than the RFB ever thought of being. AR's being restricted here is the only thing that makes most of the non-restricted black rifles look reasonable in comparison. How many of us can honestly say we would pick a RobArms or Kel-Tec anything over a quality AR if we could take the AR anywhere we wanted to?


Mark
I would still take the RFB because it's length makes a better bush gun. Not only would you have to change the status of the AR, you would have to remove the restrictions on barrel length to even make it a consideration
 
That's interesting. I haven't heard good reports about M-14 thermolds, so I've removed them from mind.

How much are you paying for your DSA mags?
the thermolds were roughly $20 US each plus getting them here legally, my DSA 5/30 were $65 each here. I find the DSA mags too long on the RFB so I do not use them really, but they have worked perfectly when I did.
 
Before you ask, yes I have shot an RFB. It was ok, but nothing fantastic.

The AR platform is a vastly better rifle than the RFB ever thought of being. AR's being restricted here is the only thing that makes most of the non-restricted black rifles look reasonable in comparison. How many of us can honestly say we would pick a RobArms or Kel-Tec anything over a quality AR if we could take the AR anywhere we wanted to?


Mark

I do generally agree with this. But antime I consider selling my RFB I notice it sitting next to my AR10 rifles and a few SVT40 rifles. The RFB is almost half the length. It's solid although the polymer is comercial feeling there is a lot of steel. Shouldered off hand the RFB is much nicer to hold on target than an AR10. Even an AR10 with a 16" barrel. Build wise, mag release and operating system hands down go to the AR10.

If the RFB was in 556 it would get it's @ss handed to it by the Tavor and the FS2000. Short of going half price there wouldn't be much of a market for the RFB. But as it's 308 and non restricted there isn't anything that directly competes against the RFB. The closest competition is the XCR-M. Again RFB is half the length.
 
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If the RFB was in 556 it would get it's @ss handed to it by the Tavor and the FS2000. Short of going half price there wouldn't be much of a market for the RFB.
I have shot the RFB and Tavor side by side and the things I noticed that the RFB wins on are the trigger and the accuracy and I would doubt those two factors would change with caliber. (both were tried with various factory loaded premium ammo)
 
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