Rifle Optic Reticles Thread

Thanks for the idea HS.

I will deffinatly view the YouTube channel to get up to speed.

I found out today that the Vortex Razor HD Gen II 4.5-27x56 EBR-2C reticle MRAD allows for range finding & shot placement.

The EBR-C2 has more than enough coverage for 20 mpr wind gusts across the tree pattern.

The selling feature of these optics is the life time warranty and no fault damage on top of fast turn around times if things go south.

It is Vortex's pursuit to be the leader of optics, and they are going about it beyond all optic manufactors by standing behind their products 100%.

I still have my home-work in front of me to get schooled, only from that point will I foot the bill.

I know one thing, if it ain't in writing from the Canadian Rep, then it won't happen.

Leopold has been good to me with no questions asked on "all" optics no matter how old they are,,, if they can't sort things out on older units,,, then they will work with me at the best of fare price... So far so good since I've only needed service 2 X's at $0.00 charge.

If Vortex or what ever other optic manufacturer can match this in the $4000 ish Cnd funds, then I'm on board.

Thanks again HS, planning going forward on my journey as I strive to get the best bang for my buck over the long hual.

Cry once at the high initial cost, but Grin from ear to ear knowing that it is sorted for a lifetime.

Western Canada Don
 
Don,

what a warranty is good for?

if you have a product well made you will not need it. what is it good to have a scope lifetime warranty that is at the service center and your rifle is scopeless?
 
This is a great looking scope. Only real downside is no illuminated reticle. They should have added this option, big oversight IMO.

Where's a good place inn Canada to purchase this Bushnell ?


medvedqc said:
i really like the reticle of the bushnell LRHS 3-12x44.
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I'm a big fan of the H59. Doesn't look nearly as "busy" when you're behind the scope than just looking at renderings of the reticle. Floating dot, .2mil hashes and an awesome grid for holding over and wind.
 
Solid dial clicks is a must, that way we can feel these adjustments with out having to look.
This adds to the advantage of speeding things up,,, at least for me that is.

Another thing that comes to mind is low light gathering, this is another area I need to work off of for critter Harvesting, 2.5 & 3 power is nice up close when needed.
1.7 power is even better of course.

The 18 to what ever zoom is nice for long range match or other shooting sports,,, along with DIY shoots in the 1 k to 1700 meters.

So this is my next research optic, again,,, looking at the EBR 2C reticle with options of H-59 or Tremor 3.

https://www.vortexcanada.net/en/tac...ex-razor-hd-gen-ii-3-18x50-ffp-ebr-2c-10-mrad

At least I'm taking my time, and totally on board with life time warranty.

I could care less if this is cheaper than that since the move is a once in a lifetime investment for a optic that will serve me for the rest of my days.

If I sold off all my optics today, I'd have enough to buy 1 and a half of them. LOL.

Research is key in my books.

Don
 
madashell said:
This is a great looking scope. Only real downside is no illuminated reticle. They should have added this option, big oversight IMO.

Where's a good place inn Canada to purchase this Bushnell ?
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h t t p ://bushnell.com/hunting/rifle-scopes/elite-long-range-hunter/lrhsi-4-5-18x-44mm

that one will fit your request.
 
My friend sent me this link. He's bringing some in this year

https://athlonoptics.com/

Cronus BTR or ARES BTR.

Life time warranty along with quick turn around "if" needed.
More reading in the week ahead. At this price point I'll do 2 of them.
One to use and a back up incase I fall off a Cliff or a tree lands on me.
This is not saying that a Grizzly Bear won't chew the end off the scope either. Ha.

Always nice to look at the options.

Don
 
The Cronos BTR is a great looking option.


Don_Parsons said:
My friend sent me this link. He's bringing some in this year

https://athlonoptics.com/

Cronus BTR or ARES BTR.

Life time warranty along with quick turn around "if" needed.
More reading in the week ahead. At this price point I'll do 2 of them.
One to use and a back up incase I fall off a Cliff or a tree lands on me.
This is not saying that a Grizzly Bear won't chew the end off the scope either. Ha.

Always nice to look at the options.

Don
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Here's the 2016 Shot Show review, at least it offers some insight into the Athlon optics company.

Strange that they claim they are a USA company / partners "with",,, when this artical states China / Japan.

http://opticsthoughts.com/?page_id=1510

Strange indeed,,, I ain't going to be fouled on who is who when it comes to optics.

Yes, I know, most optics come across the big pond to get here, but I'm not overly keen on new start up companies unless they have a few years under belt.

Sure the quality to price point had me looking, but knowing what I know now is making me think 7 times on this company.

Like I mentioned, ain't worth my time at close to best if there not the best.
The best have proven track records in National match,,, this is the line I'm going to follow on my build.

It's no wonder I'm doing my home-work,,, getting schooled is a good thing in my books.

Don
 
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Dam, guess I'll have to build a optics vice / table set up.

Ho Hummmmm, after reading this thread I find out there are sheep, and sheep that look like sheep.

http://www.opticstalk.com/athlon-rifle-scopes_topic42523.html


I guess what it boils down to is that we have to perform our own quality control tests our selves since no one is going to do it for us.

Each optic scope is different, one won't know if it is tracking correctly until we put it threw the paces.

Sure glad I'm onto this over a period of time to get things sorted
 
I thought I'd spend the day practicing the optic test on my 3-12x42 BDC optic, that way I will have this figured when I bite the bullet.

I attached a old tape measure to my board and make bold sight lines every 5" for easy viewing.

http://www.opticstalk.com/how-to-optically-check-a-rifle-scope_topic41811.html

I have some rifle to optic alignment stuff to do from the looks of things. LOL.

I got this sorted last week, now the cross hairs stay fixed on target.

Here's your Christmas Present for all.
Dancing cross hairs "DOT" is now locked into place
https://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/what-is-parallax.1175/. I just finished the increment fine tuning and the "DOT" does not move. Once it's set,,, its set till our eyes change with age. Most folks probably knew this from long ago. I offer it as a refresher.

Don

PS: Edit. If your optic is sighted in at 100 yards / meters,,, don't forget to count the clicks as you dial down, that way if a person forgets where 100 zero is, you can dial down and count the clicks up to get back to zero. Add the dial back numbers to your rifle data book.
 
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I'm carrying this over from another thread since the project is under way

After the holiday season we are gathing up the gear and charts we have on hand, then slowly add to it month by month.

We are doing this for the fun of the sport.
Tests & Reviews right here in Western Canada's out-doors.

Ok, a home built facility.
The main stage will be 100 meters, then with the grace of our farm nabour folks we will be able to range out to a massive distance beyond what any bullet will ever reach.

http://precisionrifleblog.com/2014/0...esults-part-1/

The above is only a sample of what it will take to perform a review,,, the ones we are hoping to pull off will "normally take a year.

This is a major under taking, and time consuming.
All of us taking part in these have full time jobs and hobbies in the shooting sports world along with family's and other things on the go.

The only reasons for us going this route is to set up a on going test sight to make sure our optics are doing what they are suppose to do.

As I mentioned in the above post,,, we are going to address the mid to mid higher price optics first,,, access to them is easy & everyone "normally" uses these optics for Harvesting critters and general plinking.
Some with in the Muzzle to 100 or 300 meters, other folks beyond that.

Then later in the year, is to start on the higher quality optics once everything is set-up in the open to closed features departments.

Kinda like the thick of things.

The above link is just a sample of what each of us can do, of course this is for those that choose to push the limits of what we're after.

Western Canada Don
 
And this post to

This is one of the links attached to the "above "PRS" link as above.

It puts a whole new aspect of resolution and contrast.

http://opticsthoughts.com/?page_id=122

Getting schooled is good.

Funny thing is that this idea came up at our range this summer.
One of the members is a optic photography persons, he talked about the camera lens filters in general that can adapt onto optic scopes.

This conversation was about dealing with clarity and heat waves from hot rifle barrels and the Mirage down range.
Of course this has it benefits and disadvantages.
Won't know till we look into this

Don

PS: At least I'm taking my time to get it right ones and for all.
 
I like how "Weby Shops / Guns & Ammo" stated this in their "opinion" only by the author of the article...

"""Then there are the different failure modes: if your scope is going to fail, you want it to fail catastrophically, so that you know right away something went wrong. The worst kind of failure is the gradual decline in precision and repeatability, since it is often difficult to diagnose until it is too late. Bottom line is that if you want to avoid surprises, check your scopes periodically for precision and repeatability of adjustments.

Lastly, there is a case of unreasonable expectations (yet again). I expect every scope I have to be durable. If it does not hold zero, it is a paper weight, not a scope. However, if it is a truly inexpensive piece, I do not have very high expectations on repeatability, so I do not mess with the adjustments too much. The more I pay for the scope, the more I expect from it. By the time we get to mid-price scopes ($500 to $1000), I do not expect any nasty surprises. For the truly high end stuff, I expect everything to be flawless, since I have just paid twice more money for 10% more performance. The rest of that extra price tag goes into QC."""

I'm guessing most of us would think this, man oh man this is one incredible article from the Optics Thoughts Web page.

The above artical was one long read, it offers ideas and tools along with the brake down of what is involved in the building of a good optic.

Can't wait to find other articals in this line that will give me a better understanding beyond this learning curve.

If I keep this up, I might start making my own high power optic scope.

Paper towel tube, Saran Wrap, and tin-foil. LOL.
Tin-foil and duct tape are the best.

Don
 
Magoo22 said:
Spending time behind whatever reticle you choose is the key. 5000 rounds a year will help more than your choice in reticle. Follow your gut and buy what you really want. Then shoot the crap out of it... And have fun...
2 cents worth right there.
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That isnt 2 cents worth - that is about $2000 worth of advice. Lack of practice behind a reticle is the biggest problem anyone has, and the problems multiply when you have multiple rifles with different scopes.
 
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