Rob Furlong Marksmanship Academy

Anyone have some background info on this guy here? Have a email out asking acouple questions, just waiting to hear back.

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Sadly a bit of bad attitude spoiled a good thread here.

I have heard nothing but good stuff about the RFMA from people I know who have taken instruction there. I suspect some experienced shooters may be impatient with having to re-do basics but if ego is set aside I am quite certain that all of us can pick up something even from a lower level course of instruction and for the newer shooter especially the information would be of great value. I am convinced that even though I have been shooting for 40 years, have some various and now faded bits of paper and a collection of shiny thingys related to shooting stuff I could undoubtedly learn from Rob F and other similar folk and I find it surprising that others feel such instruction wouldn't be beneficial.

As far as mastering the basics is concerned my observations would mirror those of Longshot - a sound foundation is essential to doing well. Now for sure you can just run on out there and have fun and I would never discourage that but if you want to be really good at something (pistol, shotgun, rifle, martial arts, golf, skiing, cooking etc etc....) then having the basics nailed down is key.
 
Shibby! said:
That's not required at all.

Come out and shoot. Provided your equipment is prepared for such a shooting event, it's a great time with great people. It's written into the rule book that helping others is advised. No sport will grow unless it reaches more than the hardcore few.

I had zero PRS experience and I finished middle of the group both times. First with the only semi auto and .223 (AR-15), and the next with my bolt gun.

That said, I do have 1000's of rounds long range experience as a hobbyist, but that stuff can be taught easily. The real challenge is barricades, running your gear, and thinking. Some fitness, etc. It's just fun.

I highly suggest people to try. In any shooting discipline. I can't say I've had a bad experience doing pistol speed, long range, PRS, 3G, shotgun sporting clays, 5-stand and trap. I can't say I'm super involved in any specific one, but I've done competitions is many shooting disciplines and have had many great times.
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Longshot said:
Well it is required if you want to do well. If you don't mind going out, throwing lead downrange and finishing middle of the pack that's great, fill your boots. It is fun for sure! I'm NOT saying don't go out and try it. All I'm saying is that most people would benefit from far more work on basic things, like the things that RFMA will teach on their level 1 course, than to jump headlong into PRS style moving and positional shooting, when they don't have a firm grasp on firing a perfect shot in prone let alone wrapped around a pile of pipes or something.
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I worked on my basics a little ;) ... worked on a load. Got good shooters around me from the army... got the 5th place in a PRS comp first attemp... ;) hehe!

But more seriously... Rob is a great class no doubt. I met the guy a few years ago in Ottawa along with afew guys over here. Nice guy. I suspect that many people have unreal expectations. I attemp some CQB clinics in my life. Yea you know with some ex ninjas... Well I was the only military guy in the group. My expectations where a little high. Obviously nothing OPSEc was teached. Bummer but hey... It's an open course. I can deal with that.

They teach you to shoot. Not to conduct an operation. They will improve your technique no doubts. But they won't make you a sniper.

I would appreciate every moment of this class. Would I learn? Yes. We always do.

I tend to appreciate a lot more stuff by having realistic expectations.
 
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Buy set up, break inn set up. Meet serious shooters with same interests, reload Match grade ammunition prove that your ammunition is working at 100 yds, all the time talking and comparing with people doing similar things, down load APLLIED BALLISTICS program all this at 100 yds. then start reaching out and proving your calculations to 1000yds. You will attract people with great knowledge and experience to help you along. Dropping money on a a corse isn't the best decision without owning gear and learning to reload and master basics. Waste O Time.Long range corse comes after short range experience and not owning your own gear ? Really !! hahahah if you have money to toss around ill take some LMAO.
 
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Buy set up, break inn set up. Meet serious shooters with same interests, reload Match grade ammunition prove that your ammunition is working at 100 yds, all the time talking and comparing with people doing similar things, down load APLLIED BALLISTICS program all this at 100 yds. then start reaching out and proving your calculations to 1000yds. You will attract people with great knowledge and experience to help you along. Dropping money on a a corse isn't the best decision without owning gear and learning to reload and master basics. Waste O Time.Long range corse comes after short range experience and not owning your own gear ? Really !! hahahah if you have money to toss around ill take some LMAO.
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The "stay at 100 yards" advice is good. I spend more time than anyone I know at 100 yards with my precision rifles (more than a few snickers at my club I'm sure), but if I can't produce 0.25 or 0.5 MOA results with my system - which is rifle, Ammo and shooter, without the list of second-order effects that longer range demands, then I will stay at 100 until I can.

For me, the current challenge is my ammo (load development and maintaining low SD - I have a labradar so no excuse not to chrono everything). Current SD for .308 and .300 WM is around 10 - can do better. Rifles are solid, the weak link is me still - getting better and more consistent.
 
I am learning everyday, my first Fclass match is in april, because I have made connections in the shooting game with great people the info I am getting is over the top. I have met a lady at our range, she has shot prone for over 20 years an currently teaches biathlon shooters, she has helped me in a big way. Your set up is everything and your trigger control. The best advice I got was to set up for 15 minutes everyday in the house, I live in a location were through my sliding glass door I can see 150yds. I set up lay down on matt an practice my trigger control, no need to just let rounds fly because i have rounds to shoot. I have no advice on your SD I'm around 5fps but i use redding match dies an .002 neck tension and trim my cases to .0005 tolerance, align an deburr the primer pockets an flash holes, use a inside chamfer hand tool with a rod guide and adjustable depth setting so they are all consistent. match primers thats about it. I've noticed that some powder charge weights have given me a larger ES on velocity no matter what I've done for case prep. I am new to this myself but being surrounded by great people is huge, I'd recommend getting involved in FCLASS The people and info so far seem to be awesomed
Good luck
 
The best advice I got was to set up for 15 minutes everyday in the house, I live in a location were through my sliding glass door I can see 150yds. I set up lay down on matt an practice my trigger control, no need to just let rounds fly because i have rounds to shoot.[/QUOTE

When you set up for dry fire practice put a dime on the end of your barrel. If you can keep the dime on the barrel when you dry fire then you are stable and not flinching the rifle. I learned this exercise a long time ago and it helps.
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The rifler ranges that support match shooting are full of pro shooters, if it was a 6 month corse in all different types of environments with your own gear id say you'd probably learn from a pro to be a shooter. In a short crash an burn corse borrowing gear in my opinion it wouldn't make enuff of a impact, The $850 could buy a nice match barrel or some match reloading gear instead.Not my style either way have fun
 
Robbs said:
The best advice I got was to set up for 15 minutes everyday in the house, I live in a location were through my sliding glass door I can see 150yds. I set up lay down on matt an practice my trigger control, no need to just let rounds fly because i have rounds to shoot.[/QUOTE

When you set up for dry fire practice put a dime on the end of your barrel. If you can keep the dime on the barrel when you dry fire then you are stable and not flinching the rifle. I learned this exercise a long time ago and it helps.
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Great tip thanks
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Quick question. I was wondering about taking this course to be a more proficient with my hunting rifle between 300-600 yards. I'm not a target shooter I'm a hunter but can see the value of this course applied in my application.

My question is I own a very accurate hunting rifle. (Christiansen Arms) in 270wsm and run a ziess 3x9 with the rapid z 600 reticle. Would my rifle work for this or would I better off setting up something else?
 
buckbrushoutdoors said:
Quick question. I was wondering about taking this course to be a more proficient with my hunting rifle between 300-600 yards. I'm not a target shooter I'm a hunter but can see the value of this course applied in my application.

My question is I own a very accurate hunting rifle. (Christiansen Arms) in 270wsm and run a ziess 3x9 with the rapid z 600 reticle. Would my rifle work for this or would I better off setting up something else?
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Should work fine if you get comfortable with your scope reticle, I would invest in a scope with a adjustable turret in MRAD or MOA before taking the corse 5-25 power
Cheers
 
My question is I own a very accurate hunting rifle. (Christiansen Arms) in 270wsm and run a ziess 3x9 with the rapid z 600 reticle. Would my rifle work for this or would I better off setting up something else?
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If you are looking for opinions, I would just run the scope you have as there is nothing wrong with it, and at 9 power you should have no trouble going to 600 yards or more. For years I was doing fine with a 10 power out to 1000 meters. You really get the full deal from a course like this when you use your own equipment that you will use all the time. Everyone I know who opted to use rental equipment instead of their own really regretted it.
 
Robbs said:
If you are looking for opinions, I would just run the scope you have as there is nothing wrong with it, and at 9 power you should have no trouble going to 600 yards or more. For years I was doing fine with a 10 power out to 1000 meters. You really get the full deal from a course like this when you use your own equipment that you will use all the time. Everyone I know who opted to use rental equipment instead of their own really regretted it.
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Thanks, I turn 30 this year and wife wants to get me something and I was leaning toward this course
 
Had a buddy from work who took the course and said it was worth every penny to go to. Also, the gunsmith I had some of my rifles worked on said he learned a lot from it too. Looking to join in a class sometime this year myself.
 
buckbrushoutdoors said:
Quick question. I was wondering about taking this course to be a more proficient with my hunting rifle between 300-600 yards. I'm not a target shooter I'm a hunter but can see the value of this course applied in my application.

My question is I own a very accurate hunting rifle. (Christiansen Arms) in 270wsm and run a ziess 3x9 with the rapid z 600 reticle. Would my rifle work for this or would I better off setting up something else?
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I'd go for it for sure. However understand that your ammo is going to be the biggest drawback. You will quickly learn that hunting grade ammo generally just doesn't cut it past 500m. You will make hits but holding a group like the guys running match ammo will be tough. Its still satisfying to ring some steel way out there even if it takes a bunch of shots to get on it!
 
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