Danimal247
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Picked up this from Wolverine's first shipment of Micro's, I added a Dlask adapter and Vltor stock separately, The cost was well below my right nut.
Love it!
How about some more? My little gem
Robarms XCR FAQ post
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Love it!
How about some more? My little gem
Danimal247
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Toronto, ON
Yep, buy the pistol, then buy the FAST stock, or a stock adapter + your choice of AR15 stock
I went with the OEM FAST stock for mine
Hey all, I have a quick question for you.
I have the XCR-L in .223 (I'm still not sure if it is designed to fire 5.56 NATO as well though, can't seem to find that info anywhere).
I'm thinking about getting the conversion kit to 7.62 x 39. I'm assuming of course that it won't be compatible with 7.62 x 51 NATO. Now, I'm not familiar with 7.62 x 39, however I am familiar with 7.62 NATO and I know that it is a pretty serious round.
How does the 7.62 x 39 compare with it? And how does it compare with .308? I'm thinking that if it is almost the same I can just get the conversion kit rather than getting an XCR-M.
I'm interested in hunting, and possibly bear defense too.
Thanks in advance.
I have the XCR-L in .223 (I'm still not sure if it is designed to fire 5.56 NATO as well though, can't seem to find that info anywhere).
I'm thinking about getting the conversion kit to 7.62 x 39. I'm assuming of course that it won't be compatible with 7.62 x 51 NATO. Now, I'm not familiar with 7.62 x 39, however I am familiar with 7.62 NATO and I know that it is a pretty serious round.
How does the 7.62 x 39 compare with it? And how does it compare with .308? I'm thinking that if it is almost the same I can just get the conversion kit rather than getting an XCR-M.
I'm interested in hunting, and possibly bear defense too.
Thanks in advance.
It says on the Robarms web site it takes 5.56 Nato & .223 Rem
Well, 7.62x39mm(762 soviet) and one is 7.62x51mm(762 nato), so the 762 soviet is shorter, less gunpowder so not as powerful as the 762 nato.
Depends what you plan on hunting. I'd used 762 soviet for black bear if I had a chance. Or whitetail deer.
308win can do just about anything though.
Depends what you plan on hunting. I'd used 762 soviet for black bear if I had a chance. Or whitetail deer.
308win can do just about anything though.
Apollyon, with a name like that you should be more familiar with caliber rounds
7.62 x39 and x51 are vastly different rounds...they have no similar whatsoever. It would be like saying a .22LR is similar to a 5.56 Nato, or a .308 to a 300 WinMag. They might share the same caliber diameter but such a similarity means exactly nothing.
Yes, you can shoot 5.56 NATO in the .223 XCR...mine loves them.
The 7.62x51 NATO is otherwise known as the .308, of course as you said, and this caliber is supported on the XCR-M platform. There are NO conversions for the -L for .308, it can't shoot them.
The 7.62x39 is basically a "Russian" round that became popular because of the accessibility of cheap (in price AND quality) bulk ammo for that round, typically made in China or other sketchy places.
You can find endless, endless, endless, debate online on the performance differences between 5.56NATO and 7.62x39. The 7.62x51NATO / .308 is far superior in energy and ballistics to both, but such performance is obviously not typically necessary on the battle field. Of course, for hunting, where you want clean kills, .308 is the round for deer and up while .223 is great for varmints. The 7.62x39 can be quite accurate out of the XCR-L's with that conversion and in other guns, but it is much slower than the .223 and so doesn't reach out as far; it does carry a lot more energy than the .223 due to the heavier bullet, but it won't make a difference over the .223 on varmints.
My solution is (will be
) to have an XCR-L in .223 and an XCR-M in .308. You'll have to buy the two rifles. The -M is a little beefier and larger looking but still weighs around the same as the -L.Thanks for the detailed response! When I bought my XCR-L I was hoping to get the best of all worlds, and at that time I wasn't thinking of hunting or bear defense at all. Now it seems I'll have to get an XCR-M as well. And I also love that XCR micro conversion. I am really loving this platform
At a 100yards the .223 55gn has 1000ft/lbs of energy. The 123gn 7.62x39 has 1200ft/lbs, the 6.8SPC has 1450ft/lbs and the 150gn 7.62x51 M80 has just over 2000ft/lbs.
The 6.8 SPC has quite good stopping power in the XCR-L.
The 6.8 SPC has quite good stopping power in the XCR-L.
Since I received my FAST stock a few months ago for my XCR-L that have my 6.8SPC upper on now I have been putting together an Eberlestock X3 low drag daypack setup for summer day hikes.
With the scabbard rolled up the folded stock/pistol grip are just above the top of the pack.
Loaded with 110gr TSX @ 2650fps I figure it will do the job on any black bear/mtn lion/rock/clay bank/stick/puddle/pond/tree etc that I encounter this summer.
With the scabbard rolled up the folded stock/pistol grip are just above the top of the pack.
Loaded with 110gr TSX @ 2650fps I figure it will do the job on any black bear/mtn lion/rock/clay bank/stick/puddle/pond/tree etc that I encounter this summer.
