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hey guys! looking at purchasing one or the other and want to know your thoughts on either from everyone who has either one. and with all this bull#### going on with the bans if you think one or the other would be more in the cross hairs for a change or classification. i like most things about both rifles but it seems the sl8 its more reliable and i see lots of jamming issues with the xcr even tho this year they claim to have fixed any issues at shot show. so please feel free to give me your opinions.:rockOn:
 
I like the SL8 more but now with the new XCR Keymod I am considering one in 7.62x39 due to the weight savings and proper balance over the old models not to mention functioning problems. It is currently the only decent option in a 7.62x39 semi NR IMO

for 223 the SL8 is going to always be more accurate simply because of the barrel attachment design on the XCR and the quality of the barrel.
 
im leaning towards the sl8. only down side to it is having to do the magwell conversion and also lack of rails for attachments.
 
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im leaning towards the sl8. only down side to it is having to do the magwell conversion and also lack of rails for attachments.
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why convert? G36 pmags work with a small modification to the mag and Spear mags are also available. you can buy different forends and rails for the SL8 just like an AR but if you are trying to make the SL8 an AR you will never be happy so there really is no point. You have to like it for what it is.

If you must do the conversion the Sphur mag well is the only good option IMO
 
The xcr is much lower quality.
However, the sl8 is more of a dmr/bench rest gun.
The xcr has better ergonomics, although it is still front heavy.
Bottom line, xcr for carbine drills and hosing down berms, sl8 for gopher/coyote hunting/target shooting.
 
I have and love both. Fit/finish and accuracy go the HK, while ergos and P-Mags go to the XCR.

Don't believe the crap you have read about the XCRs. Mine has been trouble-free and operates as advertised. In fact, it has been as reliable as my SL8.

Paul
 
I have both and they are excellent rifles, I have never had an issue any. I would ask what you are going to use the rifle for? As the OP stated the XCR is better for running and gunning, and the SL-8 is better for bench work or supported shooting. As for the mag issue on the SL-8, get a Sphur mag well and you can run Pmags all day.
 
Lee Enfield said:
Don't forget the receiver warping in the rack, and my buddy reports significant zero shift with cold weather.
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I have yet to have either of those issues or the cracked receiver and any of the other wives tales I have seen posted about someones buddy having.
 
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SL8 here, great rifle and very accurate. As others have said, it really depends what you are doing but for me I use it to coyote hunt shooting off of a bipod and couldn't be happier with it. I have added aluminum rails that I bought cheap off of ebay, NEA mag well, stock, g36c rail and other bits and pieces. The mag well is nice just so that you can use LAR15 mags, otherwise I would just stick with the factory well. HK parts can be hard to find and expensive if you do find them, so that is something to consider if you plan on doing lots of changes to the rifle. The xcr has many caliber choices whereas the SL8 is only available in .223.

edit: I should also add that the zero shift due to temp. change with my SL8 is no worse than my other rifles and there is no reason that it should be (i live in Sask, so have shot it anywhere from 25*C to -30*C yesterday). I usually rezero it going between the winter and summer seasons, but haven't had to change it much.
 
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Dear god I can't listen to this. Ya sl8 is better quality? Why cause its German? Or cause its h&k? Let me guess battle proven right?

There both great guns and you will love either one. Go handle them and pick which one you like and fit better. In terms of accuracy... Your in the wrong forum. It's a black rifle, none of them are that accurate where comparing actually matters. All can be used to hunt varmint or predators. If 1/2" MOA means anything to you, buy a savage or Remington bolt action and upgrade to match barrel.

XCR was almost adopted by the us military and lost the bid to a dumb error. So it's obviously a good gun if the us military looked at it that closely.

I own a xcr and love it. Never had a single jam or issue with it. My buddy owns the h&k. He loves it and I love it too. I honestly may buy one and have both. But I don't think it's any better or worse then my xcr
 
sl8 is a dmr style rifle, some have claimed 0.5 moa, I have seen one confirmed 0.72 moa at 200m. If that's what you want, the sl8 is nearly unmatched.

xcr, I don't care for, if you want one get one. I wouldn't. If you want 7.62x39 get a csa vz or cai vz2008 instead.
 
CPA said:
XCR was almost adopted by the us military and lost the bid to a dumb error. So it's obviously a good gun if the us military looked at it that closely.
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Not sure where you got that, but it was never even close to being in the running.

What makes the sl8 better ?
The barrel to start with.
The sl8's are high quality polygonal rifled barrels. The xcr barrels look to be hand made in Pakistan.
I've run a bore scope down both (I've owned both rifles) and there is no comparison, that's a good part of the accuracy difference.
The sl8 is very solid feeling, the xcr has a bunch of slop between the upper and the lower. And the folding stock has some wiggle. Not good for accuracy.
The xcr has a ridiculous barrel attachment system, that's where the rest of the accuracy goes.
I had several screws fall out of the xcr, rendering the rifle unusable until I could locate more hardware.

If I had to buy one or the other again (I no longer own either), I'd go with the sl8, hands down.
The reasoning there is that a nonrestricted is more likely to be used for hunting, and therefore accuracy trumps ergonomics.
If you want maximum ergonomics in a non restricted, get a tavor.
If you want to land in the middle somewhere, get a rebarreled acr reregistered as non restricted.
 
I have been wanting a NR black rifle for years. What I found is I often get close to buying one of these two rifles but always back out because I read some post discrediting one of them or the other. I had the same problem with deciding between a 10/22 with nomad and a issc mk22. I was at a shop the other day with a buddy and he bought the nomad. I crumbled and bought one too. Now I'm thinking of going back and also picking up the mk22. But they are only $450-$550 investments. I just can't do that with the 223 rifles as they are simply too much money for me to invest in both. I really would like one that could shoot well enough to replace the tikka for hunting trips. If I knew for sure it would shoot MOA I would make the jump. I shoot crows at 200m and think MOA is what I need. To sum up I feel your pain trying to decide. I right there with ya.

Moe
 
ntm said:
Not sure where you got that, but it was never even close to being in the running.

What makes the sl8 better ?
The barrel to start with.
The sl8's are high quality polygonal rifled barrels. The xcr barrels look to be hand made in Pakistan.
I've run a bore scope down both (I've owned both rifles) and there is no comparison, that's a good part of the accuracy difference.
The sl8 is very solid feeling, the xcr has a bunch of slop between the upper and the lower. And the folding stock has some wiggle. Not good for accuracy.
The xcr has a ridiculous barrel attachment system, that's where the rest of the accuracy goes.
I had several screws fall out of the xcr, rendering the rifle unusable until I could locate more hardware.

If I had to buy one or the other again (I no longer own either), I'd go with the sl8, hands down.
The reasoning there is that a nonrestricted is more likely to be used for hunting, and therefore accuracy trumps ergonomics.
If you want maximum ergonomics in a non restricted, get a tavor.
If you want to land in the middle somewhere, get a rebarreled acr reregistered as non restricted.
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I never had 'screws' fall off.
What are these screws that fell off that make the rifle unusable?
 
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