Ross ####-Please add your pics!
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I just posted soome of mine on
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- Downtown Vancouver, BC
That top most Ross is in GORGEOUS shape!
A real gem for sure. Take care of her! That's a brilliant piece of Canadian heritage.
A real gem for sure. Take care of her! That's a brilliant piece of Canadian heritage.
That Ross in box is some nice gun and the others are very nice as well,thanks for sharing photo's.
Its sad we lost the Ross Company it could still be making some fine rifles today, and we never would have heard of the 7mm Mag and others, as the .280 Ross was a cannon in 1910 and would be better with powders available today.
Its sad we lost the Ross Company it could still be making some fine rifles today, and we never would have heard of the 7mm Mag and others, as the .280 Ross was a cannon in 1910 and would be better with powders available today.
Well, if you ever wanted to know what a brand new II** service rifle looked like.... This one was set up with the extended bayonet lug, so that it would actually accept a bayonet. It was likely made after the formal complaints about the Canadians not shooting actual service rifles at Bisley.
Note the variations in the next three II** service rifles. They have long stocks, so bayonet mounting would be possible. The third one does not have a sight mounted on the barrel; this is in keeping with the 1912 stock date. I think the upper of the three is 1910, can't make out the middle.
The early Mk. III service rifle is just a superb specimen.
And then there is the .280 military match rifle. This is one of the rarest Rosses made, and its condition is exceptional.
Thanks for posting these photos, Cantom.
Note the variations in the next three II** service rifles. They have long stocks, so bayonet mounting would be possible. The third one does not have a sight mounted on the barrel; this is in keeping with the 1912 stock date. I think the upper of the three is 1910, can't make out the middle.
The early Mk. III service rifle is just a superb specimen.
And then there is the .280 military match rifle. This is one of the rarest Rosses made, and its condition is exceptional.
Thanks for posting these photos, Cantom.
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- Location
- West coast of Vancouver Island
Thanks for the Ross ####
Although not a military version, here's one of the most prized Ross rifles in my personal collection. I picked it up two years ago at the Orangeville Gun Show. The wood work and bluing are still remarkable, even after all these years. Someone took good care of it for a long time before I got hold of her.
1905 Ross Mk II** (.303) Civilian Target Rifle c/w BSA Martin rear sight
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1905 Ross Mk II** Civilian Target Rifle ..... (lots more detailed pics ... click here)http://imageevent.com/badgerdog/canadianservicerifles/1905rossmkiitargetrifle
Regards,
Badger
1905 Ross Mk II** (.303) Civilian Target Rifle c/w BSA Martin rear sight
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1905 Ross Mk II** Civilian Target Rifle ..... (lots more detailed pics ... click here)http://imageevent.com/badgerdog/canadianservicerifles/1905rossmkiitargetrifle
Regards,
Badger
- Location
- Manitoulin Island
I love the looks of the Military Match without the exposed magazine. In my opinion, that is the culmination of the design. Was the move to the exposed magazine due to problems with the Mk II magazine design? Without the lever and cutout on the right side of the stock of the MkII or the exposed magazine of the MkIII and with the receiver sight, it sure looks a lot better. Sigh, sure would like to find one. BTW, in the "Sir Charles Ross & His Rifle" book, on Pg. 24 it states "However, Canada was not quite through with the Ross. Until recently, the MkIII was the official arm of the Canadian National Parks' Warden's Service". What would that approximate date be?
The 1910 action was designed for the .280 cartridge. The protruding magazine resulted when the action was adapted for .303. Ross was promoting the idea of the 1910 rifle in .280 as Canada's service rifle.
The Brits were also interested in a high velocity cartridge at about this time, of course - the P-13 in .276.
Note that Badger's civilian II** is serialed on the left side of the barrel breech, while the service issue II**s in the photos are stock serialed. Also, it is not unusual for civilian II** rifles to have fancy grained wood in the butt.
The II** rifles and the .280 match rifles were outstanding rifles in Empire competition at Bisley in the years prior to the Great War.
The Brits were also interested in a high velocity cartridge at about this time, of course - the P-13 in .276.
Note that Badger's civilian II** is serialed on the left side of the barrel breech, while the service issue II**s in the photos are stock serialed. Also, it is not unusual for civilian II** rifles to have fancy grained wood in the butt.
The II** rifles and the .280 match rifles were outstanding rifles in Empire competition at Bisley in the years prior to the Great War.
Badger's rifle is pure Commercial,hence the serial on the barrel.There were two grades available per the Ross Catalog- The "Match" and the "Presentation Match". Both used outstanding sticks of walnut, and the "Presentation" grade examples came with a silver plaque inletted into the stock, ready for engraving-
Survival rate of the Commercials appears much higher than the Military examples, but Bubba took a mighty swipe at both, destroying either with wild abandon...
Survival rate of the Commercials appears much higher than the Military examples, but Bubba took a mighty swipe at both, destroying either with wild abandon...
Here are two more pics I was sent. Some of these are pretty rare guns.
From the top:-
MkIII Commercial Home Guard
*MkII** Presentation Target .303
MkII** Target .303
*MkIIwith MkIII sight, plus CanTool saddle bridge plus CanTool sight plus a
Presentation inscription on the buttplate-
MkII original (no *) with MkII sight, plus CanTool Saddle bridge, plus
CanTool sight.
From the top:-
MkIII Commercial Home Guard
*MkII** Presentation Target .303
MkII** Target .303
*MkIIwith MkIII sight, plus CanTool saddle bridge plus CanTool sight plus a
Presentation inscription on the buttplate-
MkII original (no *) with MkII sight, plus CanTool Saddle bridge, plus
CanTool sight.
I think I said this before, but I recently saw 2 Ross sniper rifles at the Woodstock fairgrounds. Both of them were brought in by that enfield guy who's always there.
One of them he built, the other one was a real sniper he restored. He said he paid $150.00 for the original sniper and $3000 for the scope.
This is a CRB Ross:
One of them he built, the other one was a real sniper he restored. He said he paid $150.00 for the original sniper and $3000 for the scope.
This is a CRB Ross:
Were you able to log details of the two Ross "snipers" when you saw them in Woodtick? Can you confirm that either or both were in fact either 1915 or 1917 MkIII's and that the 'scopes were either or both Canadian Contract Warner & Swazey 1913's with serials below 500 as well as having 2,400 yard range wheels rather than the far more common 1913 US Contract W&S's?Were the owner's initials "JT"?
BTW: beware! There is a built-up Ross "sniper' currently being pimped in Canada by an outfit in England who shall remain nameless right now.It's a US W&S on Walt Disney mounts, screwed onto a 1916 MkIII.
BTW: beware! There is a built-up Ross "sniper' currently being pimped in Canada by an outfit in England who shall remain nameless right now.It's a US W&S on Walt Disney mounts, screwed onto a 1916 MkIII.
