rounds in magazine
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skeetgunner
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Some clubs shoot 3-position Olympic target rifles exclusively.....they tend to be single shot. In which case, the rule is still stupid, but only for stating the blatantly obvious.
What am I supposed to search?
I'll fill you in as to what I was talking about, seeing as how you blatantly missed it.
Again........SPECULATION.
In total, we have:
"May"
"Possibility"
and "Might".
Now go back and read my original post!
Thanks for coming out.
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I never did understand why they made guys with wheel guns shoot 5 rounds too. Lame if you ask me, but I guess the same rule for all makes some sense.
If he wasnt a cop.. tell him you can call the cops on him and he'll get thrown in jail for having a high capacity magazine.
You're totally missing the point, even if the person was a cop, they're not allowed to have that 17 round mag with them, doing so is a criminal offense and punishable under the Police Services Act beyond the regular Criminal Code and laws dictated by Firearms Act.
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Yikes ...magazine capacity doesn't have any correlation with potential to do crime. Let's not perpetuate this myth. Unfortunately for now we all have to use the legal 10 rounder's maybe one day this law will change. Not holding my breath, but let's not feed the myth ourselves. Magazines are getting expensive buying twice as many as we should have too.
+1. Limiting magazine capacity is not - and has never been intended to be - a crime-stopping measure.
if it's their service weapon they can have as many as can fit, personal stuff is subject to the same rules as everyone else
The guy didn't seem to be a police officer...but I guess even if he was he shouldnt have unpinned mags, i didnt see the "unpinned" mags...so maybe he was just saying if he did have them:S but thank you guys for the info I will look into club rules again and make sure I didnt miss anything, once again thank you guys
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Langley club has 5 shot rule. That equals no membership for me. It makes NO SENSE.
I was shooting last night and as usual i was loading 10 rounds into my mags and start shooting...some guy comes over from the other side of the range and asks me how many rounds I am putting into my mags...I said 10 and then he goes on telling me that you can only load 5 rounds into your mag and the only time you are legally allowed to have 10 rounds is in a competition, i just complied with him so I could continue shooting and it isnt that much of a pain to load every 5 rounds...the guy told me that he has mags that can hold 17 rounds but he is only allowed to load 5 rounds, this is what made me question him the most because i know for a fact you can't have a mag that holds more than 10 rounds...is what he is saying true?!
thanks
1. 10 round mags are perfectly legal but your club may have policy limiting you to 5 rounds so the rifle guys don't get jealous. The Langley BC indoor range has such a policy. I used to be a member there
2. The guy who spoke to you may have had a 17 round capacity mag but he didn't actually say it wasn't pinned, right? He may have been trying to be helpful, if not diplomatic.
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Well, can someone please tell me WHY they limited mag capacity if not "at least in the Governments eyes" it will help in reducing some kinds of crimes (I.E. Running from a bank and having 7 extra rounds to keep cops pinned down while they enter their car??) I dont believe it does anything to help reduce crime, I was just contemplating THE GOVERNMENTS reasoning as to why you cannot use a magazine's full potential. I have yet to hear or be told exactly the reason why it is capped at 10 rounds. I think I poorly worded my post before. I was just surmizing the dumb rule we all have to abide by, and trying to come to grips with a rule I still don't quite understand.
I should have worded the sentence something like "its not that you only load 10 rounds (to stay legal with the limit) in a 17 round mag, its that you could show up at your favorite, underguarded bank with the mag full at 17 someday.
If this guy is even hinting that he has unpinned mags, it should be taken seriously, as that is what makes it hard on the rest of us law abiders. They sure dont laugh it off when you "Joke about a bomb at an airport" whether you are serious or just being a clown. I believe the cap at 10 gives the police the edge in a shootout as you have to reload almost twice as much. But again, please fill me in as I surely don't know and am truly looking for the truth about this. So please Tell me, if it is not meant to be a crime stopping measure, or at the very least a crime hindering measure, what exactly is the rule there for????
Rules upon rules:
Regulations under the Firearms Act specify the maximum magazine capacity for all handguns (assumes handguns with detachable magazines are semi-auto pistols) and for semi-auto long guns. Exemptions are allowed for police forces and the military, but that doesn't extend to a police officer's privately owned guns. It only applies to his/her service issued guns when carried or used within the conditions set by the particular agency or force the individual is employed by. This applies to any everyone and is a federal rule so it overrides any other rules.
No lesser jurisdiction can make a rule less restrictive, but it can make a rule more restrictive. A province can make further restriction under its hunting regulations to magazine capacity or how many rounds are loaded in the magazine for use while hunting, but that won't apply to shooting on a range. A city or other municipality could make a bylaw controlling shooting within it's boundaries and further limit what type of guns can be used, and make it applicable to shooting ranges within it's boundaries. And a gun club or range can make a rule for magazine capacity or how many rounds are loaded but it applies only at that club/range. E.g. at the Saskatoon Wildlife Federation it is clearly posted (and regularly ignored) on the large bore range, "load single rounds only." (It's probably on the small bore range, too, but I don't remember.)
Maybe that range busybody was right, more likely he was mistaken and/or bullsh*tting about some of it. E.g. I doubt there are any police forces issuing a sidearm with a 17round magazine, so if he has one of those I suspect he isn't exempt the prohibition on that grounds. You might want to ask him more about who he is and what he has and why he thinks that's o.k. Meanwhile, check the club or range rules where you were shooting.
Regulations under the Firearms Act specify the maximum magazine capacity for all handguns (assumes handguns with detachable magazines are semi-auto pistols) and for semi-auto long guns. Exemptions are allowed for police forces and the military, but that doesn't extend to a police officer's privately owned guns. It only applies to his/her service issued guns when carried or used within the conditions set by the particular agency or force the individual is employed by. This applies to any everyone and is a federal rule so it overrides any other rules.
No lesser jurisdiction can make a rule less restrictive, but it can make a rule more restrictive. A province can make further restriction under its hunting regulations to magazine capacity or how many rounds are loaded in the magazine for use while hunting, but that won't apply to shooting on a range. A city or other municipality could make a bylaw controlling shooting within it's boundaries and further limit what type of guns can be used, and make it applicable to shooting ranges within it's boundaries. And a gun club or range can make a rule for magazine capacity or how many rounds are loaded but it applies only at that club/range. E.g. at the Saskatoon Wildlife Federation it is clearly posted (and regularly ignored) on the large bore range, "load single rounds only." (It's probably on the small bore range, too, but I don't remember.)
Maybe that range busybody was right, more likely he was mistaken and/or bullsh*tting about some of it. E.g. I doubt there are any police forces issuing a sidearm with a 17round magazine, so if he has one of those I suspect he isn't exempt the prohibition on that grounds. You might want to ask him more about who he is and what he has and why he thinks that's o.k. Meanwhile, check the club or range rules where you were shooting.
Since OP is from London, I’m 99.9% sure the club in question is Crumlin Sportsman, which DOES have the ‘load 5’ rule!!!
I could be wrong (so don't quote me on it) but I think the rule might have something to do with CSSA insurance policy....
I could be wrong (so don't quote me on it) but I think the rule might have something to do with CSSA insurance policy....
stormbringer
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You are right about the first part.............that is a Crumlin rule.
However you are TOTALLY wrong with the second part.
It is MOST CERTAINLY NOT a requirement of CSSA.
Instead it is all about people making up rules to try and keep their members in check. In short it is about POWER!
Pathetic as it may be......
the reason we have a 10 round rule in Canada is because we were getting sloppy on reloading (mag changes), so by limiting us to 10 rounds we would have to reload quicker and smoother especially in competition , it also improves our motor skills as we often do it while moving/running, not to mention that the weight from the extra mags around our waist help to tone our abs!! (well that part has proven to be a failure) hope this clears up some questions.On a side note maybe the clubs with the 5 round rules need more improvement!
