Rude Landowners

Wow I have to thank the OP and all the contributers to this thread for opening my eyes !
I grew up on a farm and still live in the country where 1 km from my home farm. The direction we all must take now is to show these no good scoundrel farmers we can stand on our own !
On mass I say we get rototillers and churn up upr yards. Plant grain for flour so the Ms. Can bake bread. Sweet corn , and vegetables. Buy a couple cows one to milk and 1 for slaughter. A pig or 2 for chops and bacon .... Mmmm bacon sorry !
And a dual purpose goat. Let him eat the grass and in the fall tape some of them plastic rattle antlers on it from Canadian Tire and deer hunt sort of and not even have to get landowner permission , SWEET !
If our crops fail we will show those bad , mean farmers what were made of !
Will we go to the supermarket ? No freakin way we will rely on the generosity of each other.
So there farmer guy take that !
On a personal note I realize now the depth of depravation my life has had.
Getting up at 5:00 am to go do chores in the barn. Oh ya my dad already there ahead of me to make me look bad. And run sometimes times run from the barn to the school bus because something extra came up.
And then after school doing up my home work and then joining my dad in the field plowing or discing or cultivating till dinner and then bed.
Did that selfish prick ever ask me if I wanted to go to the mall with the other kids and vandalize stuff and mug old ladies ? No not once ! Just help him on the farm.
How many times did we rush around tring to bale those last few acres just before a rain storm ? Well to many actually. The weather always seemed against us.
And what was with him always challenging me to keep up with him ?
Carry 2 bags of grain at a time. One over the shoulder and one in your hand not dragging it on the floor.
Or lifting as heavy a rock as him . Or climbing a 90 ft silo on the outside . Did he ask me if I wanted to get up on the hip roof of a high barn with him to repair it with him ?
Nope he just expected it.
Can you believe the nerve of that 1 legged prick ! Ya he lost his leg before I was born at the knee.
And what kind of a stupid jackass was he going to the barn so sick with the flu he could only about drag a pitch fork along let alone fork crap with it.
Why didn't he just call in sick like other people do at their job.
Oh no he had to be a hero 365 days a year .
Luckily I don't work on a farm anymore. Nope I'm in industry. 6:30 -3:00 yup I'm the smart one nice and easy ! 2 days off a week and I don't care about the weather.
I'm sure am glad I've seen the light about farmers now. I'm almost ashamed of my up bringing. I may not even wave to any of those bad guys on my way home today like I did yesterday, when they were haying. Nope no sir I'm cured now , seen the light , drank the cool aid.
If my dad didn't die 12 yrs ago this July 29 I may have called that one legged , stocky built , calloused handed , bald headed SOB. And said thanks for ruining my life you stupid lazy farmer.
Thanks again everybody !

Converted farm boy

Luch break is over I heard the bell.
 
I have known farmers and land owners for 2 decades or so (my priviouse line of work). Not just in Ontario, but P.Q. and N.B. too. Never in 24 years, I met a working farmer who could throw around a Million Dollars or vacationed every winter in the Dominican Republic or Mesa! Not even if they mortgaged the whole farm, which most did anyway a long time ago to feed the kids and fix the barn.... So, who are these multi-Millioner "farmers" you are talking about? Where do you meet them and where is this piece of heaven on earth you are describing? I wanna move there. I am not saying there are no prosperous farmers, but they are a few and far between.

And all this silly talk just to justify.....what? Infringing on farmer's and land owner's property rights? Same arguments can be fashioned to apply to your cars, houses....etc with minor modifications. Are OK with that? ;)
 
bearkilr said:
Bull sh+t. Grain prices are high, cattle prices are very high.
I have no problem with famers getting help when truly necessary, but these days they are getting handouts for nearly everything. If there's a freak spring blizzard, they get compensation for animal deaths. If there's too much rain, they get compensated for flooded hayland/cropland. If there's not enough rain, they get compensation to buy hay. No other business gets as many compensation packages made available to them by government as farming.

And yes, on paper many farmers look "poor", but IMO you lose that status when you can afford to spend $1,000,000 on equipment every year.

And no farmer will ever admit that things are going well, that's common knowledge. ;)
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You should hear when farmers buy a new pickup. they can't buy too nice of one because people will think they have money but they still want a nice truck. Farmers don't look poor on paper, just look at the asset column.

Home3 said:
I have known farmers and land owners for 2 decades or so (my priviouse line of work). Not just in Ontario, but P.Q. and N.B. too. Never in 24 years, I met a working farmer who could throw around a Million Dollars or vacationed every winter in the Dominican Republic or Mesa! Not even if they mortgaged the whole farm, which most did anyway a long time ago to feed the kids and fix the barn.... So, who are these multi-Millioner "farmers" you are talking about? Where do you meet them and where is this piece of heaven on earth you are describing? I wanna move there. I am not saying there are no prosperous farmers, but they are a few and far between.

And all this silly talk just to justify.....what? Infringing on farmers and land owners property rights? Same arguments can be fashioned to apply to your cars, houses....etc with minor modifications. Are OK with that? ;)
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I can throw a rock and hit several multi millionaire farmers around here. Some guys are doing very well here. Some of it is old money, oil patch or good businessmen.

mgcolley said:
Little story,

I was out searching for land to hunt, and I found a few properties that I saw deer on, one property had a very long driveway and a private property sign, so instead of driving up to the door I left them a letter in their mailbox by the road. This was a very nice letter, not to brag, simply explaining what I was looking for and how I did not approach their door as to not breach their privacy etc. I got an email response stating, "Take your interests elsewhere and if I ever see you on my property I am calling the police".

I am getting so sick of rude landowners, I am sure they get sick of people asking or some have had bad experiences, but I never touched their property and I left a harmless letter, seemed a little harsh.

Oh well, guess these are the things we have to put up with, wish people were more accepting of hunting
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I don't have a problem of people hunting on my land if they don't whip donuts or did trenches but there always is one idiot that ruins it for everyone.

We didn't care for American hunters when there was the bse bans on. also the outfitters who basically make money off of us.
 
In all fairness, In my corner of Canada (saskatchewan) there are farmers that farm a township of land, and have multiple quarter million dollar machines, the ones that had "mortgaged the farm to feed the kids" have basically sold out to the the big guys. Around here it seems if you don't have 10 sections of land or more your not farming.
 
griffin86 said:
I can throw a rock and hit several multi millionaire farmers around here. Some guys are doing very well here. Some of it is old money, oil patch or good businessmen. .
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Fair enough, but how many farmers do you know who got Multi-millionaire by growing crops or raising cattle, Dairy...etc? For every oil rancher you have there, we have one farmer here who was Lucky enough to have his property bought up by developers and builders at inflated prices. I am happy for them but they don't count as farmers (anymore).
 
roccoskeet said:
Wanna know why those farmers left the farm to work in the oil patch on a rig ?
The work is easier and the hours better.
(based on truth)
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I was raised on farm mixed farming, own it now and have spent most of the last 27 years on the rigs.

I think you should get off the drugs. I didn't even know what work was until I went to the rigs, though I thought I did.
 
pikesroad said:
Why don't you buy one then? Why don't you post some numbers and programs so we can all hit the lotto? Thats right, you can't and the rest can't either because its BS. Post one if you can, run the numbers! lets see them. Stop talking and lets see the proof.
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No need to buy another, I farm 3000 acres, so yes, I actually do know what I'm talking about. :)

Components of the 2011 Manitoba AgriRecovery Program

•2011 Manitoba Excess Moisture Assistance Program


•2011 Manitoba Forage Restoration Assistance Program


•2011 Manitoba Greenfeed Assistance Program


•2011 Manitoba Transportation Assistance Program


•2011 Manitoba Forage Shortfall Assistance Program


•2011 Manitoba Infrastructure and Individual Assessment Program


Here's a few websites with a host of assistance programs, should give you plenty of info for a while:

http://www.gov.mb.ca/agriculture/programs/floodrecovery.html



http://www.gov.mb.ca/agriculture/

http://www.masc.mb.ca/masc.nsf/index.html?OpenPage
 
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Dogleg said:
I was raised on farm mixed farming, own it now and have spent most of the last 27 years on the rigs.

I think you should get off the drugs. I didn't even know what work was until I went to the rigs, though I thought I did.
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I think you should ask someone "if" they do drugs before you accuse them of being on them.
Good thing for everybody else your a oil patch guy and not a cop the way you accuse people of things .
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Dogleg said:
I was raised on farm mixed farming, own it now and have spent most of the last 27 years on the rigs.

I think you should get off the drugs. I didn't even know what work was until I went to the rigs, though I thought I did.
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I agree. The most physical work I have done this year is pick rocks a couple days, clean out some grain bins and toss canola bags around. Farming is more mentally demanding than physical.

roccoskeet said:
Wanna know why those farmers left the farm to work in the oil patch on a rig ?
The work is easier and the hours better.
(based on truth)
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The hours are better. For the most part you know what time you are done at.

Home3 said:
Fair enough, but how many farmers do you know who got Multi-millionaire by growing crops or raising cattle, Dairy...etc? For every oil rancher you have there, we have one farmer here who was Lucky enough to have his property bought up by developers and builders at inflated prices. I am happy for them but they don't count as farmers (anymore).
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I know quite a few grain farmers. Where I live it's not oil country nor are there any big cities to pay big bucks for farmers land. There isn't much for cattle around here.
 
Wow, and all I did was defend the OP since he was talked to so rudely, not only by the landowner he sought to speak with, but a few landowners on here who wanted to blast him for hunting "their deer". Pretty sad..................:( Good luck in your quest mgcolley, take heart, not all landowners are dickheads.
 
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In Saskatchewan, I've never had anything but good luck gaining permission to hunt. I moved here 4 years ago now, and had no land to hunt. A combination of phone calling and door knocking has worked for me.

Maybe the only issue has been the outfitters pissing off the farmers in one of the areas that I hunt. When I asked the farmer about the no hunting signs - he replied, "Those signs aren't for you".

I always ask where I can and can't drive my jeep. Always close gates. Always let them know what I am driving. Always let them know when I will be around. And always have time to talk or help out if asked.
 
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