blasted_saber
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- A blue part of Ontario
Mine too, even here in Onterrible. Although is shoot (nonrestricted) on our own property far more regularly.
Ruger no 1 in 44mag
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Mine too, even here in Onterrible. Although is shoot (nonrestricted) on our own property far more regularly.
I think it only applies to military ranges...... If I am not mistaken Connaught has the same rules....... My range is the same as Hoytcannon's ..... Sign in and have fun..... And I too have it to myself often..... Except for the weekend before deer season..... Lol
It's the "going rate"..... The Marlin levers offer the same...... Unless you are using an especially long or heavy bullet, no more is needed..... I should check again, but I believe Winchester is the only maker to offer something faster.......
The Ruger 77-44 has a twist rate of 1 in 20", as do the Redhawk and Super Blackhawks.
BigUglyMan
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- Location
- New Scotland
The DNR range is 4km from the house. The nearest private one is 35km. As much as it bites, it's the way to go. On the bright side, almost no one uses the range until October. You can't shoot restricted there (at least, I don't think you can) but that's a minor issue.
I'm a novice reloader TJ, so take my comments with a grain of salt....... The .44 somewhat intrigues me as I don't own a pistol cal rifle......
From what I have read, people shoot huge grain weights in the 44 sometimes...... And I guess some manufacturers take that into account?....
Some do. I don't know why Ruger went with the slow twist on this one. I'd want to be pitching the biggest chunks of lead that I could out of a No. 1 in 44mag
Good talk TJ....... And why I am confused with the cartridge....... If I pitch heavier, longer bullets, my powder capacity goes down........
I fully admit, it's outside the realm of "what I know"..... And I am speaking as a guy tossing 200 gr from a .308 and 120 gr from a bob......
That being said, I have never had to worry about twist rates...... But have seen some crazy stuff in .223 in A buddy's rifle when on the opposite end of the spectrum...... (Launching light stuff in a fast twist).....
The pistol cal stuff intrigues me, especially since my oldest is about to start hunting....... I just don't know enough about it.....
- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
A 1 in 16" twist will give best stability in the .44 magnum with boolits from 270-400 gr. in an action that can accommodate the the added OAL of the loaded cartridge. No worries with a single shot like the No.1.
Ruger did make a .450 NE factory if you can find one.
Yes they did, it was announced about two months after I had a #1 built in 450 / 348 AI to see how close it would chase my .458.
I was going to order one but declined since having two nasty thumpers and new rotator cuff surgery at the time seemed like enough punishment.
It still would be fun to play with though...
BigUglyMan
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- New Scotland
True, but I've got this perfectly good 458 WM sitting in the safe and the 450 is as rare as hen's teeth. Unless there is someone who wants to trade their 450 for my 458. Or if Douglas is bored and has a 450 reamer. I wonder if the extractor would have to be changed?
A 1 in 16" twist will give best stability in the .44 magnum with boolits from 270-400 gr. in an action that can accommodate the the added OAL of the loaded cartridge. No worries with a single shot like the No.1.
except that this one has a 1 in 38" twist, and I doubt that it will stabilize those heavy bullets.
Why would they go back to the 1-38" twist again? Especially when they are running 1-20" twists in the 77/44...
It doesn't make sense that they would do the 38... but in my case I am fine with it... I just want to seat the 225 FTX bullet WAY out... with the 77/44 I had to bury the cannelure due to the magazine restriction... if I have to shoot single shot, I want a single shot rifle.
Man, you guys must be seat to way out to fit pills of that size in a .44 mag...... This is somewhat intriguing to me as I wrote off the cartridge as being unsuitable for deer (by my personal standards).....
Anyone have a pic handy of a loaded round?
Anyone have a pic handy of a loaded round?
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- Southern Vancouver Island
Precisely why I won't be gettin' one.
Personall, I stick to 265 grain jsp's and Barnes 225 grain hollow points. With velocities between 1850 fps and 2050 fps with full loads of win 296 in a 24" barrel. It's no slouch from a pistol and alot better from a rifle. Plenty of power for deer, bear and even moose. I'm currently looking for a 300 grain mold to experiment with as well. I personally dont have a purpose for a single shot pistol caliber rifle, unless it's maybe a .500 S and W. But to each their own, it's a great cartridge and the ruger no 1 is a great gun, so fair enough.
Think of it this way, a .30-30 win with a 170 grain soft point puts out about 1850 ft/lbs of energy, will expand to maybe .45 cal, penetrate all the way through and kill the deer easily. A .44 mag is already almost that size and usually heavier, even if you use a hardcast bullet at a somewhat slower velocity, it doesn't need to expand to punch a big hole and will create a killing wound just as well as a .30-30 maybe better with an expanding bullet, if used within its range. My 265 grain handloads at about 1850 fps are putting out around 2000 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle, plenty for deer, bear and even moose if you so choose. Plus my 92 will hold 15 rounds of .44 mag, so you have lots of firepower in a quick, handy package.
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If Elmer thought it was a good deer (and more) round I think it's safe to say it is Brad; we all know he had a penchant for overkill
There is no need to "seat way out" the bullets are designed for a revolvers cylinder anyways.
Not to threadjack but the 500 Handi is all that and a bag of chips. I can't wait to play more with mine when I have some days off. Especially when we consider that heavy bullet weights in the .44 are low to mid range in the 500.
A ruger no. 1 in that caliber would be most excellent.
There is no need to "seat way out" the bullets are designed for a revolvers cylinder anyways.
Not to threadjack but the 500 Handi is all that and a bag of chips. I can't wait to play more with mine when I have some days off. Especially when we consider that heavy bullet weights in the .44 are low to mid range in the 500.
A ruger no. 1 in that caliber would be most excellent.
