Ruger products-dead for me due to idiotic engineering

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Can-down said:
You disagree that OkayShooter and others have had bad service from Snapshots?
What do you base that assumption on? The fact that you got good service? Do you think he is lying to us?

I'm sure some people have gotten good service from Snapshot just like I know other people have gotten bad service. I know about the bad because it's happened to me in both official languages on several occasions via email and phone . They are quick to blame Ruger for their woes but some of the issues I had were all in house and based on poor communication.

Even though I know they are capable of bad service, I could easily imagine them being capable of good service, specially if they have the parts on hand and can simply mail them out quickly.

I do agree with your comment on the "Race to the Bottom" mentality of modern manufacturing and not just guns.
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I found Ruger America was top notch. Location snap shot is where it failed. Communication was lacking.

hoytcanon said:
Fair enough, but the lowend crap from ALL companies suffer from QC issues... that is why they are cheap... and cheap seems to be what many want... false economy to my mind.
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500$ isn't really cheap. But If they cannot get machining right on cheaper products. Why would you trust them on higher end?
 
legi0n said:
Are you for real?
Do you understand that the 9mm Glocks and Sigs are straight blowback actions? Therefore easy to convert to straight blowback rimfire ?
And do be a lamb and show me where is the gas piston on your 22 Baikal. I'm eagerly waiting but won't hold my breath.
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Read again, what I am saying the design of Mark 3 shouldn't be even there as it is stupid. I know glock17 convertor is different principle. And that principle ruger had to adopt and stop producing crap based on crazy engineering. U read/ understand what u want , but now I guess it should be 100% clear


Now what after g17Gen5 crapuger will produce mark5 based on same housespring schizophrenia? I already envision their publicity.... "wiping your ass via poking your nose.... continuing the tradition.... boom boom crapuger, buy our crap... well at least we can produce snapcaps"
 
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I am not notifying my utube or anything... strange how I am promoting video channel by not posting videos or links? This is the same as Russian weather weapon is involved in recent TX storms as some think this way.... man oh man

What I am doing here is looking for alternatives after venting my frustration re crapuger
 
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Have to jump in as well, I have many Rugers and have owned lots of others. Never had one that was a problem. Have shot gophers to moose with them. As for the field stripping a 10-22 or there pistols, even after 4000 rds from the 10-22 in 4 day in the gopher patch, there was no failure and no need to strip. Pick any brand & find problems. A well maintained firearm needs fewer repairs. Buy what you like, take care of it and shoot.
 
Can-down said:
You disagree that OkayShooter and others have had bad service from Snapshots?
What do you base that assumption on? The fact that you got good service? Do you think he is lying to us?

I'm sure some people have gotten good service from Snapshot just like I know other people have gotten bad service. I know about the bad because it's happened to me in both official languages on several occasions via email and phone . They are quick to blame Ruger for their woes but some of the issues I had were all in house and based on poor communication.

Even though I know they are capable of bad service, I could easily imagine them being capable of good service, specially if they have the parts on hand and can simply mail them out quickly.

I do agree with your comment on the "Race to the Bottom" mentality of modern manufacturing and not just guns.
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No, I am offering up an alternate perspective for those innocent bystanders reading this thread... it is not just my experience with Snapshots that I was referencing, but also the experiences of a number of friends and referrals.

They are in QC and English is their second language (this is Canada), however I have never had difficulty communicating the details of an issue or in requesting a part. Michael will invariably ask for an email detailing the problem or request, Carole usually takes the phone calls and orders. Both have given me good service.
 
How reliable us sr22?

Anyhow, disassemble of sr22 is much better... but again crapuger cannot help itself and tries to invent a wheel.. compare this to glock above


 
Not sure how reliable is np22. I got np34 and it is a very nice built.

Again crapuger lovers.. see how the handgun in .22 should be... even Norinco knows it... just copy it like Norinco did pay for the licnse and stop torturing the world with your engineering crap

I think I will buy np 22.next

I'VE HEARD THESE ALSO COME IN .22 is that true?
 
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Now back to the crap... only buck master is comparable to ####ographic design of marks
Watch this.... don't you think that there must be no screw drivers or punchers/ hummers like for Mark to take the pistol apart????

 
The ####ography continues.. gsg is not really reliable, the quality of metal sucks...my friend has one like that... and thread removal tool.... wow.. man
 
Now all those complaining about trolling, lack of constructivism and me cherry picking arguments. WTF seriously? Oh man it is so typical... it is like blaming Russia helping Trump and when Russia is asking for evidence do not provide any and just saying it is a usual Russian strategy to interfere and then ask for evidence... so f.... provide the evidence for god sake. Or u also have unnamed sources?

Why neither of u guys posted at least one link, comment description about .22 pistol alternatives. Anyways, hopefully u will learn from video posts above what is constructive and straight to the matter... nobody even proved to me that crapuger springhousing mark design is a good way to go. Definitely u r so constructive in #####ing about lack of constructivism
 
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PECHENEG said:
Now all those complaining about trolling, lack of constructivism and me cherry picking arguments. WTF seriously? Oh man it is so typical... it is like blaming Russia helping Trump and when Russia is asking for evidence do not provide any and just saying it is a usual Russian strategy to interfere and then ask for evidence... so f.... provide the evidence for god sake. Or u also have unnamed sources?

Why neither of u guys posted at least one link, comment description about .22 pistol alternatives. Anyways, hopefully u will learn from video posts above what is constructive and straight to the matter... nobody even proved to me that crapuger springhousing mark design is a good way to go. Definitely u r so constructive in #####ing about lack of constructivism
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You are in the right place... your talking about "Guns" and your "Nutz."
 

I've heard these are reliable, but getting mags is a pain... disassembly similar to SR22

Maybe I'd go with this one
 
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Not as crazy disassembly.. of course the design is still crazy, but better than crapuger mark 3, where you have to tap on the barrel to take it off.
Again... engineering of this one... is stupid.. but at least not as bad as crapuger mark 3.

Not sure how reliable are those and if available at all in CANADA
Crazy plastic spacer... seriously

 
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PECHENEG said:
The lunacy continues.. gsg is not really reliable, the quality of metal sucks...my friend has one like that... and thread removal tool.... wow.. man
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There I fixed your post for you and honestly reliability and easy take down are not quite the same thing. I myself have the Sig Sauer 1911-22 and several hundred rounds through it it no problems and a range buddy of mine has the gsg 1911-22 with thousands of rounds and only a handful of duds, I'm guessing it's the nature of the beast with .22lr

And FYI this gun wouldn't be my choice for shtf scenarios many other better options but seriously that's like planning the day lightning strikes you seriously man get off it and live life.
 

not sure how reliable is it
disassembly is a bit strange, but again, incomparable to crapuger mark 3

not sure if these are available in CANADA, but would be interested to try
 
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Keep6 said:
There I fixed your post for you and honestly reliability and easy take down are not quite the same thing. I myself have the Sig Sauer 1911-22 and several hundred rounds through it it no problems and a range buddy of mine has the gsg 1911-22 with thousands of rounds and only a handful of duds, I'm guessing it's the nature of the beast with .22lr

And FYI this gun wouldn't be my choice for shtf scenarios many other better options but seriously that's like planning the day lightning strikes you seriously man get off it and live life.
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thanks.. what "many other options"?

re: reliability vs easy take down-that's what I was trying to say in my previous posts: MARK 3 was more or less reliable, though jamming on cheap ammo... I don't know how people manage cheap ammo in Mark 3 w/o FTF/FTE...
takedown was stupid on Mark 3

The ideal handgun must be:
CHEAP and RELIABLE and EASY to take down to satisfy any SHTF... but I was not looking for mark 3 for SHTF, I rather considered .22 rifle for that purpose... for plinking/ getting meet food purposes only.. I need at least reliable and easy takedown .22 pistol for training of myself and my kids
 
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