Russian SKS45 long thread.
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I now predict Summer 2009.
Let’s get this boat back in the water, swiped from another site:
The SKS became obsolete with the new concepts of tactics and operational art growing out of the study of Soviet experience in World War 2. The AK 47 was better suited to this new warfare model, was more reliable, and in its improved AKM form, cheaper to make and maintain and logistically it made common sense to eliminate a second type which required training and support. By 1953 its fate was decided.
Russian SKS Model 41
The SKS41 was never put into production due to the out break of war on 22 June 1941. The perfected prototype was due to undergo trials in July 1941, but because of the war the Simonov design group was directed to concentrate on the production engineering for the PTRS 14.5mm anti-tank rifle which was given the highest priority in view of the rampaging Panzers rapidly over running the Soviet Army. The carbine was in 7.62X54R and looks very similar to the SKS45 with the exception of an unusual flash suppressor or compensator. The receiver, the bolt carrier and cover with the takedown lever, rear sight, and stock appear much the same but the hand guard extends almost to the front sight, covering, perhaps the gas tube. The magazine is of the same hinged type developed because Stalin thought the removable magazines were prone to loss and damage.
Russian SKS model 45 (CKC45g)
Tula-Weapons were produced in this area by artesians starting in the 16th century because of the mineral deposits close at hand and in the 18th century Tula Arsenal which is the oldest arsenal in Russia was built and was the first to use water powered machinery to produce weapons. Producing SKS's 1949 through 1955 with early model receivers in 49-50-51 and 52, late model receivers in 52 through 55.
The guns that were manufactured starting in 1946 through 1948 were trials guns and use a bayonet that looks like one from a Mosin Nagant Model 1944, and there were two styles of locking mechanism for the blade bayonet made as well. There were also early model bolts on 49-50-51-and maybe the early part of 52. Tula's mark is a five point star with an arrow inside, found on the bolt carrier cover and on the 55 model it can be a small star on the left side of the receiver as well.
Izhevsk- producing 1953 through 1954 with no variations known by me as I have only seen two of them. Izhevsk's mark is a circle with a triangle inside, with an arrow inside that, also found on the bolt carrier cover.
The stocks on the Russian SKS are made of Arctic Birch and have an almost natural camo pattern when stained or oiled which ever it is. Actually smells like old used motor oil. Replacement stocks were made using laminated Birch, sometimes containing two reinforcing bolts.
I have seen bayonets that were blued, satin chrome and polished chrome, actions that were re-finished in black powder paint and that were beautiful polished blue.
The accuracy of an SKS was checked by firing 3 rounds at a target and if it obtained sniper quality it was marked on the front of the front sight base with the number 1, with #2 and #3 as accuracy decreased.
M45 SPECIFICATIONS:
WEIGHT: 8.8 lbs.
BARREL: 20.34 inches
LENGTH: 40.16 inches
MAGAZINE: 10 round, fixed, staggered double row box
FRONT SIGHTS: Hooded post
REAR SIGHTS: Tangent leaf, graduated from 100 to 1000 meters
CALIBER: 7.62 x 39 Soviet M43
BORE DIAMETER: 301 inches
RIFLING DIAMETER: .311 inches
RIFLIN
1 turn in 9.45 inches RH
The SKS became obsolete with the new concepts of tactics and operational art growing out of the study of Soviet experience in World War 2. The AK 47 was better suited to this new warfare model, was more reliable, and in its improved AKM form, cheaper to make and maintain and logistically it made common sense to eliminate a second type which required training and support. By 1953 its fate was decided.
Russian SKS Model 41
The SKS41 was never put into production due to the out break of war on 22 June 1941. The perfected prototype was due to undergo trials in July 1941, but because of the war the Simonov design group was directed to concentrate on the production engineering for the PTRS 14.5mm anti-tank rifle which was given the highest priority in view of the rampaging Panzers rapidly over running the Soviet Army. The carbine was in 7.62X54R and looks very similar to the SKS45 with the exception of an unusual flash suppressor or compensator. The receiver, the bolt carrier and cover with the takedown lever, rear sight, and stock appear much the same but the hand guard extends almost to the front sight, covering, perhaps the gas tube. The magazine is of the same hinged type developed because Stalin thought the removable magazines were prone to loss and damage.
Russian SKS model 45 (CKC45g)
Tula-Weapons were produced in this area by artesians starting in the 16th century because of the mineral deposits close at hand and in the 18th century Tula Arsenal which is the oldest arsenal in Russia was built and was the first to use water powered machinery to produce weapons. Producing SKS's 1949 through 1955 with early model receivers in 49-50-51 and 52, late model receivers in 52 through 55.
The guns that were manufactured starting in 1946 through 1948 were trials guns and use a bayonet that looks like one from a Mosin Nagant Model 1944, and there were two styles of locking mechanism for the blade bayonet made as well. There were also early model bolts on 49-50-51-and maybe the early part of 52. Tula's mark is a five point star with an arrow inside, found on the bolt carrier cover and on the 55 model it can be a small star on the left side of the receiver as well.
Izhevsk- producing 1953 through 1954 with no variations known by me as I have only seen two of them. Izhevsk's mark is a circle with a triangle inside, with an arrow inside that, also found on the bolt carrier cover.
The stocks on the Russian SKS are made of Arctic Birch and have an almost natural camo pattern when stained or oiled which ever it is. Actually smells like old used motor oil. Replacement stocks were made using laminated Birch, sometimes containing two reinforcing bolts.
I have seen bayonets that were blued, satin chrome and polished chrome, actions that were re-finished in black powder paint and that were beautiful polished blue.
The accuracy of an SKS was checked by firing 3 rounds at a target and if it obtained sniper quality it was marked on the front of the front sight base with the number 1, with #2 and #3 as accuracy decreased.
M45 SPECIFICATIONS:
WEIGHT: 8.8 lbs.
BARREL: 20.34 inches
LENGTH: 40.16 inches
MAGAZINE: 10 round, fixed, staggered double row box
FRONT SIGHTS: Hooded post
REAR SIGHTS: Tangent leaf, graduated from 100 to 1000 meters
CALIBER: 7.62 x 39 Soviet M43
BORE DIAMETER: 301 inches
RIFLING DIAMETER: .311 inches
RIFLIN
1 turn in 9.45 inches RHyes, lets get back on the the boat .
great site. carbines for collectors .
http://www.carbinesforcollectors.com/
http://www.carbinesforcollectors.com/sks.htm
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Quite serious - thank you.
so i've been looking for a while on SIR's website and couldn't find them!
can anyone help me, is it possible that they don't have them anymore?
i'm new to the SKS but at that price it just seems like a good way to get into them lol
i've been considering a 7.62X39 rifle for a while and the more i read about the SKS the more i find it interesting
can anyone help me, is it possible that they don't have them anymore?
i'm new to the SKS but at that price it just seems like a good way to get into them lol
i've been considering a 7.62X39 rifle for a while and the more i read about the SKS the more i find it interesting
Jasontheterrible
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It was happening this week, if all are where I think they are,.. I will call tomorrow or stop by the shop,.. but won't be able to post the info till I get home.
Canadian80
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- Nanaimo, BC
Dumb question..
Just wondering if it is possible to get an extended magazine for these guns that frontier has coming in? I think it's called a duckbill magazine? I know the guns are pinned to 5 rnds, but I like the look of the extended 5/30 rnd mag. I know that the detachable magazine mod is a lot of work and not very practical, I'm just talking about a permanent magazine.
Thanks,
Ryan
Just wondering if it is possible to get an extended magazine for these guns that frontier has coming in? I think it's called a duckbill magazine? I know the guns are pinned to 5 rnds, but I like the look of the extended 5/30 rnd mag. I know that the detachable magazine mod is a lot of work and not very practical, I'm just talking about a permanent magazine.
Thanks,
Ryan
1300_stainless
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- Nova Scotia, Canada
They make detachable high cap (pinned of course)mags for standard sks. It's easier than the D conversion. From what I hear they can have feeding issues. Not sure about high cap fixed.
Jasontheterrible
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- The land of Wild Roses
#1bcshooter
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- North Of The DMZ (US border)
No update on Frontier site since the 22nd or here . They were suppose to be inspected on the 25 & if approved starting to ship this week to customers . You would think if they were approved Frontier would be shouting it from the rafters . Call me crazy call me negative but Is there ANOTHER DELAY ?
Before you start -This is not a complaint about Frontier or any other dealer
Just another chapter in the epic Russian SKS saga . I wonder when the movie will come out ?
Before you start -This is not a complaint about Frontier or any other dealer
Just another chapter in the epic Russian SKS saga . I wonder when the movie will come out ?
Jasontheterrible
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- The land of Wild Roses
Do you not read my posts
And by the shop,.. I mean the one where the pinning check is happening
And by the shop,.. I mean the one where the pinning check is happening
#1bcshooter
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- North Of The DMZ (US border)
Do you not read my entire post
(Before you start -This is not a complaint about Frontier or any other dealer
Just another chapter in the epic Russian SKS saga . I wonder when the movie will come out ? )
Relax its Sunday . Just running up my post count LOL
Jasontheterrible
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- The land of Wild Roses
Don't read this post,.. I forbid it
