S+w m+p9 2.0

4n2t0 said:
Nope, I have/had both the 1 & 2, same $hit trigger in both.

Perhaps you haven't shot many striker-fired pistols? lol.
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Ok, so I have owned several M&Ps, including a gen 1 with the apex trigger kit. And gen1.without the apex trigger kit.
My m&p 2.0 has a very nice trigger, probably around 4-5 pounds , and has a very clean take up and crisp break. Wondering what striker fired pistols you have shot that come from the factory with better triggers??
 
Interesting. Most find 2.0 trigger as improvement over first gen. I like the feel of 2.0 trigger. Just yesterday finally got my hands on Austrian g17 gen5, trigger is significantly worse. Better than gen 3 but much worse than 2.0.
 
FromAWhirly said:
After all the humming and hawing, I finally gave up on my dream of having a 9mm 1911 and got the range kit from Tenda. $619 for the 2.0 was too cheap to pass up. Is the gritty and horrible trigger effectively fixed in the 2.0 version? I also got the standard 4.25" barrel and wonder if it's possible to fit the 5" long slide and barrel on this in the future. Hopefully this pistol will out-shoot me for a good and long time. Also it's irritating that you can't use & in the thread title.
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Canuck44 said:
The Tenda M&P Range Kit for $619 is the Gen 1. It still is a decent buy and a good gun. I hope the OP is happy with his purchase. I have owned both the 4.25" and the 5" Pro. The longer sight radius is not enough difference to worry about. I actually prefer the shorter barreled gun.

Take Care

Bob
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Tenda's product description says, Model Series: M&P9 M2.0 Carry & Range Kit so hopefully the OP got what he thought he was getting.

I have both the 4.25" Gen 1 and the 5" Gen 1 Pro CORE with an apex trigger. The stock Gen 2 trigger is reported close to the apex. There is definitely a big improvement between the Gen 1 trigger and the apex.
 
Walknby said:
Tenda's product description says, Model Series: M&P9 M2.0 Carry & Range Kit so hopefully the OP got what he thought he was getting.

I have both the 4.25" Gen 1 and the 5" Gen 1 Pro CORE with an apex trigger. The stock Gen 2 trigger is reported close to the apex. There is definitely a big improvement between the Gen 1 trigger and the apex.
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Wife has a Gen 2 .45 and put the Apex trigger in it, don't know what the stock gen 1 trigger was like but the Apex is definitely an improvement over the stock gen 2 trigger,, bonus is it also gets rid of that horrible curved M&P trigger lol
 
4n2t0 said:
Nope, I have/had both the 1 & 2, same $hit trigger in both.

Perhaps you haven't shot many striker-fired pistols? lol.
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Why don't you just say you don't like the M&P, period. Most shooters, some who have a significant amount of time on handguns, do not describe the Gen 2 trigger as being a #### trigger.

The issue with most striker fired pistols where the sear is not fully set enjoy a less than stellar trigger. The take up due to the fact the trigger bar has to push the FPB up and out of the way before it engages the sear This along with the need to fully set the sear in the M&P and Glock adds to their take up. The Springfield and PPQ's for example fully set the sear when a round is chambered and as a result the trigger feels much more crisper. Apex domes the FPB significantly which reduces the effort to push up the FPB. The lighter springs in their Competition Kits reduces the trigger pull.

S&W markets the M&P to Military/Police units where the long take up and heavier pull is considered a feature as some think it reduces the chance of AD's. If it bothers those in the civilian market you can install kits to reduce and clean up the trigger pull. From my experience I have not often seen a significant improvement in new shooters performance after installing the enhanced trigger kits. Most of their improved performance comes with practice and decent instruction from third parties.

As an aside a Master shooter came up to our Provincial match and used my stock M&P FS to win, going away, SSP Division. The #### trigger on the Gen 1 didn't seem to bother him much.

Take Care

Bob
 
FromAWhirly said:
After all the humming and hawing, I finally gave up on my dream of having a 9mm 1911 and got the range kit from Tenda. $619 for the 2.0 was too cheap to pass up. Is the gritty and horrible trigger effectively fixed in the 2.0 version? I also got the standard 4.25" barrel and wonder if it's possible to fit the 5" long slide and barrel on this in the future. Hopefully this pistol will out-shoot me for a good and long time. Also it's irritating that you can't use & in the thread title.
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You’ll be just fine with that gun for a long time. Don’t bother with a slide/barrel swap. Keep the gun as-is for the next while, with maybe an Apex upgrade down the road if required.

Can’t wait to try it! :cheers:

- one of your friendly ROs at SFGC. :)
 
jimbo14 said:
You’ll be just fine with that gun for a long time. Don’t bother with a slide/barrel swap. Keep the gun as-is for the next while, with maybe an Apex upgrade down the road if required.

Can’t wait to try it! :cheers:

- one of your friendly ROs at SFGC. :)
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You want to show off those one hole groups again, right?

All kidding aside, FromAWhirly, if you have problems with your M&P, go find that graying friendly RO. He’ll set you straight.
 
Speaking Of the S&W M&P 9mm. What kind of accuracy do you find with it, like how close are slow fire group at 5-7 yards compared to something heavier like a cz. Just wondering because thinking about getting a Cz Shadow.
 
RunThenGun said:
Speaking Of the S&W M&P 9mm. What kind of accuracy do you find with it, like how close are slow fire group at 5-7 yards compared to something heavier like a cz. Just wondering because thinking about getting a Cz Shadow.
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They are more accurate than most people, at 5-7 yards ragged holes are no problem if you do your part, our buddy is a Master Class IDPA shooter and shoots M&P's exclusively.
 
RunThenGun said:
Speaking Of the S&W M&P 9mm. What kind of accuracy do you find with it, like how close are slow fire group at 5-7 yards compared to something heavier like a cz. Just wondering because thinking about getting a Cz Shadow.
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Unless something's wrong with the gun you won't be able to judge accuracy at 5-7 yards. With that said, I wouldn't consider my M&P to be the limiting factor when it comes to accuracy. The Shadow is a no-brainer, it's a fantastic pistol (and no $hitty M&P trigger to deal with).
 
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RunThenGun said:
Speaking Of the S&W M&P 9mm. What kind of accuracy do you find with it, like how close are slow fire group at 5-7 yards compared to something heavier like a cz. Just wondering because thinking about getting a Cz Shadow.
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Here's a 10 round 5m grouping I did with a Canik, G19X and a M&P 2.0. All good well maintained modern guns shoot better than we can, like edgy said.

 
RunThenGun said:
Speaking Of the S&W M&P 9mm. What kind of accuracy do you find with it, like how close are slow fire group at 5-7 yards compared to something heavier like a cz. Just wondering because thinking about getting a CZ Shadow.
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What Edgy said. Off a bench I have found the PPQ to be about as accurate as my eyes will allow. I still shoot my M&P Pro better freestyle but I have way more time on it then I do the PPQ. At the distances you quote there is no significant difference in accuracy potential. They all pretty much send the bullet where the barrel is pointing.

It is the archer not the arrow. That said the Shadow is a very nice gun. The Shadow2 is to heavy for IDPA but plays well in IPSC Production against the Tanfoglio Stock111. The latter I think is the present reigning gun for IPSC Production Division. How much do you want to spend to get to pretty much the same place for most. M&P $550, the Shadow $850, the Shadow2 $1,250 and the Stock 111 >$2,280.

The polymer guns generally are more popular due to their price point and their versatility.

Take Care

Bob
 
It's supposed to arrive on Friday, so hopefully the registration shows up before range day. The product description is "Smith & Wesson M&P9 M2.0 Carry & Range Kit-9MM" so I will be disappointed if the wrong thing lands on my doorstep.

I'm willing to bet that when 4n2t0 has been bad all year, Santa fills his stocking to the top with M&P triggers. I appreciate everyone's input. If my brother out-shoots me with his P10F I'll claim that its due to his extra 1/4" of barrel length.
 
FromAWhirly said:
It's supposed to arrive on Friday, so hopefully the registration shows up before range day. The product description is "Smith & Wesson M&P9 M2.0 Carry & Range Kit-9MM" so I will be disappointed if the wrong thing lands on my doorstep.

I'm willing to bet that when 4n2t0 has been bad all year, Santa fills his stocking to the top with M&P triggers. I appreciate everyone's input. If my brother out-shoots me with his P10F I'll claim that its due to his extra 1/4" of barrel length.
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Lol, it's not the length, it's how you use it that counts :)
Congrats on the purchase, they are a nice pistol, the wife shoots a 2.0 in .45 for IDPA and absolutely loves it
 
FromAWhirly said:
It's supposed to arrive on Friday, so hopefully the registration shows up before range day. The product description is "Smith & Wesson M&P9 M2.0 Carry & Range Kit-9MM" so I will be disappointed if the wrong thing lands on my doorstep.

I'm willing to bet that when 4n2t0 has been bad all year, Santa fills his stocking to the top with M&P triggers. I appreciate everyone's input. If my brother out-shoots me with his P10F I'll claim that its due to his extra 1/4" of barrel length.
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Congrats on the purchase, I think I was mistaken, I was watching Tenda for a while and only saw the sale on the 1.0 range kit, and then I looked again the other night and there was both the 1 and 2. that's a sweet deal on the 2.0 range kit. If I didn't have my truck, trailer and motorcycle's annual insurance premium to pay for this month, I'd be all over that!
 
FromAWhirly said:
I'm willing to bet that when 4n2t0 has been bad all year, Santa fills his stocking to the top with M&P triggers.
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My Santa isn't that cheap...

Big a$$ lumps of coal!!!

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