S&W MP 9 Shooting Low? -UPDATE-

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Hey,

I have had my MP 9 out to the range several times and have put a fair number of rounds through it. I know how to sight my target, and have even fired off a rest to minimize my effect on the aim, but the gun shoots low.

Is this common for this breed? ie: at 25/50 yds, my sights totally obscure my intended target. So if I am going for a heart shot on a silhouette, I am pretty much aiming for his neck...

Advice...?
 
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I would suspect you have a flinch.

Try having someone else shoot the gun and see if they get the same results.
 
Mark Mags said:
Hey,

I have had my MP 9 out to the range several times and have put a fair number of rounds through it. I know how to sight my target, and have even fired off a rest to minimize my effect on the aim, but the gun shoots low.

Is this common for this breed? ie: at 25/50 yds, my sights totally obscure my intended target. So if I am going for a heart shot on a silhouette, I am pretty much aiming for his neck...

Advice...?
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At 25 to 50 yds, you are asking too much.

Trigun
 
Mark Mags said:
Hey,

I have had my MP 9 out to the range several times and have put a fair number of rounds through it. I know how to sight my target, and have even fired off a rest to minimize my effect on the aim, but the gun shoots low.

Is this common for this breed? ie: at 25/50 yds, my sights totally obscure my intended target. So if I am going for a heart shot on a silhouette, I am pretty much aiming for his neck...

Advice...?
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More details please...

How low? Is it centered low or 7 o'clock low or 5 o'clock low???

Yes at 50 yards it will drop around 6" from POA based on my past testing of my reloads for IPSC matches. at 25 yards... not much of a drop from POA.

Have you tried using the other back straps? When I had my MP9 the small felt the best in my hands BUT the Large gave me better groups because the hand grip filled my hand better for better control.
 
easysauce said:
can you pull the trigger while balancing a quarter on the front sight?
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This is always a fun drill you can run with a friend (or randomly loaded mags with snap caps)

If the quarter (or empty casing) falls, it's most definitely a shooter.

Also, try shooting the gun from a rest and fully supported, that'll help you know if it's the gun or you... the reality is that most of the guns are far more accurate than it's shooter, unless you're a movie action hero
 
The guys still need the info on how low it was hitting and if it was 6 o'clock low or more like 7 to 8 o'clock. Including what sort of group sizes you were getting would also help.

From the folks I've seen shooting M&P's and my own sessions with a rented one at the local Rent-A-Gun range I'd say you likely have a flinch. If the gun shot low at any distance out to 25 yards then it was by an inch or two at the most. Anything more than that and if the groups tend to be a foot big or more then it suggests a nasty flinch issue.
 
I would have to agree it is the shooter. I am having the exact same issue, shooting low and to the right. My brother then shoots my gun, and he gets very nice groupings; where he is aiming at.
We were shooting once and my Dad and Brother both asked, "you are shooting at the target right?!". My skill/problem is that bad.
Just need to work on technique and practice, practice, practice. Which is hard with a 5 year old and working in the seismic industry.V:I:

Anvil
 
Anvil1010 said:
I would have to agree it is the shooter. I am having the exact same issue, shooting low and to the right. My brother then shoots my gun, and he gets very nice groupings; where he is aiming at.
We were shooting once and my Dad and Brother both asked, "you are shooting at the target right?!". My skill/problem is that bad.
Just need to work on technique and practice, practice, practice. Which is hard with a 5 year old and working in the seismic industry.V:I:

Anvil
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For a right hander it's very common. The three lower fingers are contracting with the trigger finger. Either you are anticipating the shot or have a loose grip to begin with and are over-compensating.

Some slow, steady dry-fire with the pistol should help.
 
I thought my SW m and p was shooting low and left... till i had some knowledgable people watch me shoot, and the said I had a flinch... which i did, but I just didnt notice it...

do the quarter on your front sight test..

put the quarter on your front sight, bring the gun up to aim without losing the quarter, dry fire, without losing the quarter,

if you cant pull the trigger or move the gun a bit without dropping the quarter, you know its your pistol handling skills...

for what its worth, sometimes lightening the trigger pull HELPS if you have fingers that dont like a 8ilb pull... wont do the work for you but makes it easier to not put too much force into the trigger squeeze.
 
I should be out sunday am, and actually put some thought into my trigger squeeze etc. I will try to get some measurements (distance+possible drop) and pics. Hopefully I will be a bit more settled and there wont be any need for any documentation at all.
 
So I got out sun, but, I took a girlfriend with me, so she actaully did most of the shooting. But, I did get off about 30 rds, and after going to the large size grip, I did notice a difference in both feel and POI. Grip took a couple of mins to get used to, but after I didn't have a problem with it. I think that helped bring up my shots on target (about 10-15 yrds).

Still more work to do, but at least its a start...
 
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