SA German Parade Dagger.....PICTURES NOW UP!!!!!!!!!!!

[350 Mag]

Ladies and Gentleman...put your hands together forrrrrr 1st dumbass comment of 2020.

Just what do you think the "optics" of some "anti" coming on a Canadian Gun Owners Forum and viewing a thread on collecting/covetting a Nazi war trophy?

Using a military surplus as sporting rifle is a non issue.

What are you going to do with a "Parade Dagger"?

Last post on subject and I apologize for "hurt feelings" I caused....

Enjoy.

 

[Recce21]

I don’t know what kind of narcissistic personality disorder drives people to inject unsolicited negative opinions. No ones “feelings” are hurt and who gives a #### about optics. Has “optics” stopped the antis from coming after peaceful gun owners or any other hobby they dislike based soley on blind idealism? Only an ideologue dismisses the context and nuance of collecting German historical artifacts of all types and lumps it all into some sort of “boogie man under the bed” Nazi worship.

 

[350 Mag]

I don’t know what kind of narcissistic personality disorder drives people to inject unsolicited negative opinions. No ones “feelings” are hurt and who gives a #### about optics. Has “optics” stopped the antis from coming after peaceful gun owners or any other hobby they dislike based soley on blind idealism? Only an ideologue dismisses the context and nuance of collecting German historical artifacts of all types and lumps it all into some sort of “boogie man under the bed” Nazi worship.

OMG.... personality disorder?

Comparing your "hurt feelings" about antis coming after your guns.....with the feelings of Holocaust Survivors? oh the humanity.


People collect Nazi Flags, pins, Clothing, Medals, Hitler's telephone from his bunker, pictures of Hitler etc etc.

I am not Jewish nor did I lose any family in the Holocaust but I can appreciate what they must feel when they see people collecting / covetting items from the Nazi's


I suppose a lampshade from hides of Jews would be o.k too? Or an empty tin of Zyclon B?.....after all it's just History?

 

[barrett50cal]

By that logic, isn't it insensitive to Iranians for you to display a Spartan helmet?
I'm not descended from Persians, but I can appreciate what they must feel when they see a symbol of their military humiliation at Thermopylae.


Lol just razzin' you.

 

[SteelFlint]

Cool knife. A piece of history from modern antiquity. If these relics vanished as some wished these never existed, then a whole lot of folks would have died in vein. It's that whole 'absent knowledge history repeats' kinda thing.

I think nothing of your political proclivities and pass zero judgement on your affectations towards Nazism.

 

[OneBarfly]

OMG.... personality disorder?

Comparing your "hurt feelings" about antis coming after your guns.....with the feelings of Holocaust Survivors? oh the humanity.


People collect Nazi Flags, pins, Clothing, Medals, Hitler's telephone from his bunker, pictures of Hitler etc etc.

I am not Jewish nor did I lose any family in the Holocaust but I can appreciate what they must feel when they see people collecting / covetting items from the Nazi's I suppose a lampshade from hides of Jews would be o.k too? Or an empty tin of Zyclon B?.....after all it's just History?

Wow, you have such great insight and caring too (I suppose that you really do care and that you are not the type who is constantly making sweeping statements). My grandfather (Emil) did die as a direct result of him being arrested and sent to a German concentration camp; however, I think that there is zero wrong with the collecting and or the preservation of history, or risk the peril of repeating of it. Others may feel differently, but who are you to judge

 

[350 Mag]

By that logic, isn't it insensitive to Iranians for you to display a Spartan helmet?
I'm not descended from Persians, but I can appreciate what they must feel when they see a symbol of their military humiliation at Thermopylae.


Lol just razzin' you.

What I see when I hear ..."I collect Nazi Memoribilia"

Lol....great movie.

 

[tokguy]

I'm gonna side with 350Mag on this topic. It's an open forum...do we assume that no-one reads these posts and doesn't give the poster ' The Ole Side-eye '?
Saying " I don't care "! is really short sighted IMO.
There is a Waffenampt or two in my safe, but not by design. I'd just as soon have a pre-Nazi rifle anyhow...better quality.
If you are a hard-core Nazi-memorabilia collector...I'm gonna be a tad leary of my Kids playing near your yard.
Just saying.

 

[Remembering]

Meh... I think people who are offended by things that have nothing to do with them are victims of the modern progressive movement.

..weak

 

[FLHTCUI]

Meh... I think people who are offended by things that have nothing to do with them are victims of the modern progressive movement.

..weak

Modern progressive movement ?
10 Million human being systematically murdered because they where Jews ?
Ahh I see your rational thinking here .
Weak, very weak ....
I worked with a guy who was MIA for a week in France during the war.
He lived in a hotel basement eating cheese and drinking wine while the chermans ram a muck above ground .
He also took a Luger from a German he killed and brought it home on the boat to Canada.
But, a day or two out from home a General Announcement was made that any War Trophies found during inspection on the dock would be dealt with in the most serious of manners . (RIP Dennis Demnchuk)
He along with many of the returning vets made a trip to the ships side in the evening hours for some fresh air.
There was no inspection shore side and he was on a train home to the big smoke a day or two later.
Collect what you want display what you want, I aint gonna judge you for your collection , but I might not wanna share beers with you if your gonna brag about some firearm or gun that may have killed innocent civilians.
Rob

 

[Remembering]

Modern progressive movement ?
10 Million human being systematically murdered because they where Jews ?
Ahh I see your rational thinking here .
Weak, very weak ....
I worked with a guy who was MIA for a week in France during the war.
He lived in a hotel basement eating cheese and drinking wine while the chermans ram a muck above ground .
He also took a Luger from a German he killed and brought it home on the boat to Canada.
But, a day or two out from home a General Announcement was made that any War Trophies found during inspection on the dock would be dealt with in the most serious of manners . (RIP Dennis Demnchuk)
He along with many of the returning vets made a trip to the ships side in the evening hours for some fresh air.
There was no inspection shore side and he was on a train home to the big smoke a day or two later.
Collect what you want display what you want, I aint gonna judge you for your collection , but I might not wanna share beers with you if your gonna brag about some firearm or gun that may have killed innocent civilians.
Rob

I don’t think you see my rational thinking.
Obviously I don’t agree with all of the horrible things that have been done in the past. My issue is that people are so sensitive that they suggest that collectors could be an unsafe or unsavory member of society because of a rifle or knife in their collection.

 

[CanadianAR]

Not trying to rain on anyone's parade....just not a collector and certainly wouldn't collect anything Nazi....the idea of people making profits dealing in Nazi Regime Memoribilia is disturbing.

Why even comment? Besides your “Roman” avatar is responsible for untold suffering, and you think it’s neat.......

 

[CanadianAR]

Modern progressive movement ?
10 Million human being systematically murdered because they where Jews ?
Ahh I see your rational thinking here .
Weak, very weak ....
I worked with a guy who was MIA for a week in France during the war.
He lived in a hotel basement eating cheese and drinking wine while the chermans ram a muck above ground .
He also took a Luger from a German he killed and brought it home on the boat to Canada.
But, a day or two out from home a General Announcement was made that any War Trophies found during inspection on the dock would be dealt with in the most serious of manners . (RIP Dennis Demnchuk)
He along with many of the returning vets made a trip to the ships side in the evening hours for some fresh air.
There was no inspection shore side and he was on a train home to the big smoke a day or two later.
Collect what you want display what you want, I aint gonna judge you for your collection , but I might not wanna share beers with you if your gonna brag about some firearm or gun that may have killed innocent civilians.
Rob

Wow. Because i collect trophies of allied soldiers you wouldn’t have a beer? News flash bud, they all killed innocents. Lots of stories of German POWs being shot by Canadians and Other allies. Why bother keeping it in museums either. Grow up.

German stuff is by and large harder to find quality items in untouched condition, and I mean, prices and demand show people don’t share your views.

A matching 42 Enfield....$1000 a matching 42 German Mod 98....$2500

 

[Recce21]

What I see when I hear ..."I collect Nazi Memoribilia"

Lol....great movie.

All those hard core Nazi anti semites returning from Europe in 1945 with Nazi paraphernalia. The horror! lol

Meh... I think people who are offended by things that have nothing to do with them are victims of the modern progressive movement.

..weak

Fudds and Cancel Culture in full swing

Modern progressive movement ?
10 Million human being systematically murdered because they where Jews ?
Ahh I see your rational thinking here .
Weak, very weak ....
I worked with a guy who was MIA for a week in France during the war.
He lived in a hotel basement eating cheese and drinking wine while the chermans ram a muck above ground .
He also took a Luger from a German he killed and brought it home on the boat to Canada.
But, a day or two out from home a General Announcement was made that any War Trophies found during inspection on the dock would be dealt with in the most serious of manners . (RIP Dennis Demnchuk)
He along with many of the returning vets made a trip to the ships side in the evening hours for some fresh air.
There was no inspection shore side and he was on a train home to the big smoke a day or two later.
Collect what you want display what you want, I aint gonna judge you for your collection , but I might not wanna share beers with you if your gonna brag about some firearm or gun that may have killed innocent civilians.
Rob

LOL. Again, if you are in the game of dismissing nuance and context and instead focus on hysterics (as you clearly are, "may have killed innocent civilians", its a rifle, not a guillotine) then bragging about stealing from a man he just murdered and taking a trophy is pretty psychotic. See how ridiculous opinions based on ideological blindspots are?

Not to mention if you are so hung up on attaching ethical connotations to inanimate objects, you better never own a single piece of militaria belonging to the Allied Bomber Command because they sure as sh*t may have killed innocent civilians.

 

[Sherbrooke]

OP, nice find. Thanks for sharing it with us.

Items of historical interest are artifacts which can carry painful connotations for some people.
I inherited a Snider Enfield which was carried by the 10th Battalion "Royal Grenadiers".
These were the Canadian soldiers who dashed Metis hopes by capturing Louis Riel after a bayonet charge, my rifle could very well have been present on that day.

Mao Tse Tung created a great famine by expropriating agricultural produce from the Chinese people and selling it off on the world market, in order to fund his Atomic bomb program.
Millions upon millions died as a result....estimates range from at least 20 million to 45 million.
Is it unethical to acquire a bargain priced Chinese sks knowing this?

It would seem prudent to be consistent rather than selective.

I suppose a lampshade from hides of Jews would be o.k too?

This ^ has been discounted as post war propaganda.

Eisenhower, it is claimed, was responsible for the deliberate deaths of 800,000 to over 1 million surrendered German soldiers after the war.
He was able to skirt the Geneva convention by declaring that the surrendered troops were "disarmed enemy forces" and left them bereft of food and shelter in open air prison camps.
That $2000 Garand looks a bit different in that light.

Terrible things happen during times of conflict, I would posit that war crime is oxymoronic as war itself is a crime.
These historical items are reminders of mans inhumanity to his fellow man, tangible cautions to be vigilant of any ominous future portents where terrible things could happen again.

 

[Recce21]

Eisenhower, it is claimed, was responsible for the deliberate deaths of 800,000 to over 1 million surrendered German soldiers after the war.
He was able to skirt the Geneva convention by declaring that the surrendered troops were "disarmed enemy forces" and left them bereft of food and shelter in open air prison camps.
That $2000 Garand looks a bit different in that light.

Terrible things happen during times of conflict, I would posit that war crime is oxymoronic as war itself is a crime.
These historical items are reminders of mans inhumanity to his fellow man, tangible cautions to be vigilant of any ominous future portents where terrible things could happen again.

This is the most intelligent thing said in this entire derailed thread done by know it all fools.

 

[350 Mag]

OP, nice find. Thanks for sharing it with us.

Items of historical interest are artifacts which can carry painful connotations for some people.
I inherited a Snider Enfield which was carried by the 10th Battalion "Royal Grenadiers".
These were the Canadian soldiers who dashed Metis hopes by capturing Louis Riel after a bayonet charge, my rifle could very well have been present on that day.

Mao Tse Tung created a great famine by expropriating agricultural produce from the Chinese people and selling it off on the world market, in order to fund his Atomic bomb program.
Millions upon millions died as a result....estimates range from at least 20 million to 45 million.
Is it unethical to acquire a bargain priced Chinese sks knowing this?

It would seem prudent to be consistent rather than selective.


This ^ has been discounted as post war propaganda.

Eisenhower, it is claimed, was responsible for the deliberate deaths of 800,000 to over 1 million surrendered German soldiers after the war.
He was able to skirt the Geneva convention by declaring that the surrendered troops were "disarmed enemy forces" and left them bereft of food and shelter in open air prison camps.
That $2000 Garand looks a bit different in that light.

Terrible things happen during times of conflict, I would posit that war crime is oxymoronic as war itself is a crime.
These historical items are reminders of mans inhumanity to his fellow man, tangible cautions to be vigilant of any ominous future portents where terrible things could happen again.

Big difference between soldiers dying....they weren't innocent.

And teeth being pulled from gassed corpses of Jews.

Children, babies, being gassed while their mothers held them in their arms.

Yes Mao was Bad and I wouldn't hang a picture or his flag on my wall as much as I would hang a picture of Stalin and the Hammer and Sickle on my wall....

It is quite common for people to collect Nazi Flags, Pictures of Hitler, and SS posters.

Give your collective heads a shake....???

 

[350 Mag]

Why even comment? Besides your “Roman” avatar is responsible for untold suffering, and you think it’s neat.......

That's a Spartan and caption Molon Labe.....

I doubt a warrior culture like Spartans would slaughter unarmed woman and children and pull the Gold from their teeth.

There is ruthless....

Then there is evil.

The Nazi's were definitely the cruelest....and without honor.

 

[Sherbrooke]

Big difference between soldiers dying....they weren't innocent.

Sure they were.
Some at the very least. Many were conscripts, they had precious little choice but to serve. Pope Benedict was drafted as a flak gunner and also served in the infantry (his 14 year old cousin who had down syndrome was murdered in a euthanasia program) like all German teenage boys the Hitler Youth was compulsory.
Some of the men who were left to die agonizing deaths in the open air camps by the French and the Americans had fought heroically against the Red Army. The Iron curtain would have been a lot closer to the Atlantic Ocean were it not for their sacrifice. President Ronald Reagen was roundly censured for acknowledging this uncomfortable fact.
Anthony Beevor is an author and historian who accessed the Soviet archives and found some very horrific information therein. His book "The fall of Berlin" details the depredations of the rapacious Red Army and what they did to civilians, and even "liberated" female concentration camp inmates, is truly sickening.
Lev Kopalev was a Jewish Captain in the Red Army who sharply denounced atrocities which were being perpetrated upon German civilians by Soviet soldiers, and the Reds threw this man into the gulag (where he met Alexander Solzhenitsyn) for 10 years as punishment for displaying his humanity.

The Germans had no monopoly on cruelty, or evil.

Children, babies, being gassed while their mothers held them in their arms.

Years back, I stood in attendance at a function where two Canadian RCAF veterans were being lauded for their service.
These men had participated in the February 1945 raid on Dresden, a city of no real strategic or military value, which was full of refugees, women, children, and seniors fleeing the Red Army.
The city, full of non combatant civilians, was immolated with incendiary bombs.


The dagger is from the Sturmabteilung, it predates the war.
Many of the SA men signed up to fight back against the very real threat of Communism seizing power.

History is not as black and white as hindsight may make it seem.

 

[bros]

350 Mag, I thought you could do a little better than use a clip from a fictional movie to substantiate your point.

Aren't you being a little self righteous? Do you think it's possible that I might find something that's in your personal possession that I may find offensive?

Just because a book may include historical content that you may find offensive, should we be re-writing history? A book is no different than my SA dagger, it's got historical content. I don't as you suggest, worship the Nazi's because I happen to own a dagger......that's simply childish to suggest that or ludicrous, pick your choice.

Ironically you seem to subscribe to the Nazi ideology that you moral code should be the measuring stick for everybody!!!!

We are "collectively" all shaking our heads at you.

Now that you have really hijacked my SA dagger thread, feel free to comment on my original post #20, I'm waiting.

For your own conscience sake, I hope you don't drive a Volkswagen.

Big difference between soldiers dying....they weren't innocent.

And teeth being pulled from gassed corpses of Jews.

Children, babies, being gassed while their mothers held them in their arms.

Yes Mao was Bad and I wouldn't hang a picture or his flag on my wall as much as I would hang a picture of Stalin and the Hammer and Sickle on my wall....

It is quite common for people to collect Nazi Flags, Pictures of Hitler, and SS posters.

Give your collective heads a shake....???