savage accu trigger or Ruger 10/22

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I was at Le Baron last week and saw this Savage accu trigger 22lr. not sure about the model for less than $200.00, their selling the 10/22 sts for 288,00, a $100 difference. any feedback on these 2 rifles ( comparison) accuracy, reliability and maybe parts and accs. thanks
 
I guess the savage was a bolt action. It depends which type of action you like most.

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ffgats said:
I was at Le Baron last week and saw this Savage accu trigger 22lr. not sure about the model for less than $200.00, their selling the 10/22 sts for 288,00, a $100 difference. any feedback on these 2 rifles ( comparison) accuracy, reliability and maybe parts and accs. thanks
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hi ..go with the 10/22....and bass pro has them on for $199.88 till dec /24th
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Wouldn't the Savage with accutrigger be more accurate and have a superior trigger right out of the box? Might depend on whether he wants to sink a bunch of money into it, or just shoot it, and what kind of expectations of accuracy he has. I know the 10/22 is very popular, and that accounts for the large number of posts about it, but it seems many are #####ing about its accuracy or poor trigger. You should go in and look at and handle both guns and see what you think of them. Personally, I think the Savage rimfires with plastic stock are ugly, but probably shoot better than the stock Ruger 10/22. All depends on what you value.
 
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If your looking to get decent accuracy right out of the box the savage will suffice, if you want to blow money on trying to the get the ruger to shoot... go for a CZ 452 instead. Or a marlin semi, they are ok for the price.
 
I agree that the Savage will likely be the better shooter out of the box, but the 10/22 is a really fun little carbine. If it's parts and accessories that you might want to add later, 10/22 all the way.
 
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I bought a 10/22 and frankly, wish I hadn't. So far I have about $130 into parts and I still get "fail to fires"
People say "Its the ammo" or "The gun needs about 500 to 700 or even a 1000 rnds through it to wear it in"
I think thats crap. Why would you need to "wear" in an action??? My other .22 semi (Cheapo made in the Phillipines) NEVER had "Fail to fires" in muti-thousands of rounds of various ammo in 21 years even right out of the box new. The only issue was feed jams with truncated bullets.
I took my 10/22 to the range again TWICE this weekend and it still doesn't ignite all the bullets.
I'm going to search the web and see if anyone offers an upgraded firing pin.
If that doesn`t work then I'll sell the gun and send a nasty letter to Ruger telling them what I think of their "popular" 10/22
I'm thinking that all these aftermarket companies selling 10/22 upgrade parts must be laughing all the way to the bank and saying prayers that Ruger never smartens up.
 
Rick65Cat said:
I bought a 10/22 and frankly, wish I hadn't. So far I have about $130 into parts and I still get "fail to fires"
People say "Its the ammo" or "The gun needs about 500 to 700 or even a 1000 rnds through it to wear it in"
I think thats crap. Why would you need to "wear" in an action??? My other .22 semi (Cheapo made in the Phillipines) NEVER had "Fail to fires" in muti-thousands of rounds of various ammo in 21 years even right out of the box new. The only issue was feed jams with truncated bullets.
I took my 10/22 to the range again TWICE this weekend and it still doesn't ignite all the bullets.
I'm going to search the web and see if anyone offers an upgraded firing pin.
If that doesn`t work then I'll sell the gun and send a nasty letter to Ruger telling them what I think of their "popular" 10/22
I'm thinking that all these aftermarket companies selling 10/22 upgrade parts must be laughing all the way to the bank and saying prayers that Ruger never smartens up.
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Sounds like someone has already decided to give up on the best selling semi auto rimfire ever produced. I somehow doubt that the Ruger 10/22 obtained that title by offering a piece of sh*t.

Ammo is almost always the issue with failure to fire. Try a different brand. The inside of the receiver is painted. Removing this paint greatly aids in a smoother running rifle. Many owners simply "shoot away" the paint. I've done just that with both of my rifles.

Before you dump the rifle. Clean it thoroughly. There are plenty of help topics in this forum as well as others that covers some of the finer details and tips regarding a thorough cleaning. Also, ensure the barrel and the barrel block are secured properly to the receiver.

Rimfire rifles especially semi auto's are finicky to start with. Minor variances in powder charges makes a big difference for a cartridge with such a small capacity. Cheap ammo is cheap ammo. Some brands are better than others. Spending more on better ammo reduces many of the annoying problems associated with rimfire rifles. At the end of the day, its still a rimfire. They're cheap to buy, cheap to shoot and still a lot of fun.

TDC
 
I've followed the advice about cleaning. I have stripped the gun down and taken fine sanding paper sprayed with brake cleaner and gently sanded the firing pin channel clean, then took 600 grit paper with light oil and polished the firing pin. Then cleaned the receiver out with a gun cleaning brush and
G-96 sludge-buster. Ok, theres still paint inside the receiver and I suppose I could remove that too.
You say its the ammo. Here again I'll tell y'all what I use. Remington "Cyclone" HP. And again I'll say that in over two CASES, not bricks, CASES...I've yet to have a fail to fire in my Squires Bingham of 21 yrs of age. Thats over 10,000 rnds. Yet the same ammo in a quality brand name rifle has almost two doz. fail to fires in about 375 shells through the gun. Can it be THAT finicky???
 
Rick,

It sounds like you have more than teething problems. Post pics of your firing pin as suggested. A note on ammo, I used to run cyclone but found Remington's QC was the sh*ts. I averaged 2 bad rounds per box(50). That is unacceptable in my books. That and its lead ammo. I only shoot jacketed/plated ammo now. It is usually better quality and cleaner.

TDC
 
Well, the pics of the casings will have to wait. Its an hour 1 way to the range. Or maybe I could go to Phoenix indoor range and collect my brass after I'm done.
I'll strip down the gun again and take a pic of the breach and the firing pin in and out of the bolt.
Thnx for the patience guys.
 
I have both but the 10/22 I have is the target model. I love both. I would sooner buy the savage over the regular 10/22 model though.
 
Rick65Cat said:
I bought a 10/22 and frankly, wish I hadn't. So far I have about $130 into parts and I still get "fail to fires"
People say "Its the ammo" or "The gun needs about 500 to 700 or even a 1000 rnds through it to wear it in"
I think thats crap. Why would you need to "wear" in an action??? My other .22 semi (Cheapo made in the Phillipines) NEVER had "Fail to fires" in muti-thousands of rounds of various ammo in 21 years even right out of the box new. The only issue was feed jams with truncated bullets.
I took my 10/22 to the range again TWICE this weekend and it still doesn't ignite all the bullets.
I'm going to search the web and see if anyone offers an upgraded firing pin.
If that doesn`t work then I'll sell the gun and send a nasty letter to Ruger telling them what I think of their "popular" 10/22
I'm thinking that all these aftermarket companies selling 10/22 upgrade parts must be laughing all the way to the bank and saying prayers that Ruger never smartens up.
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Well, if such problems exist you can bring your 10/22 back to the dealer or send it back to Ruger for warranty repair.
I found Ruger to be very finicky about ammo and cyclones ammo is POS to begin with
 
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Rick65Cat said:
I've followed the advice about cleaning. I have stripped the gun down and taken fine sanding paper sprayed with brake cleaner and gently sanded the firing pin channel clean, then took 600 grit paper with light oil and polished the firing pin. Then cleaned the receiver out with a gun cleaning brush and
G-96 sludge-buster. Ok, theres still paint inside the receiver and I suppose I could remove that too.
You say its the ammo. Here again I'll tell y'all what I use. Remington "Cyclone" HP. And again I'll say that in over two CASES, not bricks, CASES...I've yet to have a fail to fire in my Squires Bingham of 21 yrs of age. Thats over 10,000 rnds. Yet the same ammo in a quality brand name rifle has almost two doz. fail to fires in about 375 shells through the gun. Can it be THAT finicky???
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Yes it can be that finicky....and i see you tried everything we suggested but different ammo.
CHANGE THE AMMO then work on the rest...the 10/22 is not a squires bingham.. just like Chevy is not a Ford each has their own quirks.

your choice of cyclone is dubius . the ruger is regulated to work with a standard weight and speed.22 lr bullet and ruger mags...

lets examine the cyclone ammo .22 lr high speed, light weight hollow point bullet(36 grains vs 40 gr. for a standard .22lr)

when this ammo is fired in a semi, the light weight of the bullet does not impart enough energy into the bolt/recoil spring to drive the bolt all the way back. the recoil spring then does not have energy to strip the next cartridge from the aftermarket mags ( that are probably a little tight to start with) and does not completely end up in battery all the time. So when you pull the trigger there is a cushion effect and the cartridge will not fire. ( this does not happen in your 21 yr old squires because the recoil spring is that old and probably a little slack... I wonder if you would get similar results with a new recoil spring in the squires)

If you insist on using remington .22lr then try thunderbolt at least it has a 40gr bullet.
 
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