What sort of rest(s) was in use when your buddy tried to bore sight it? Is it likely that whatever he was using was solid enough to get a decent bore sight done?
Savage Axis II XP in 308 - Is It the Scope, The Gun...or Me?
- Thread starter thegazelle
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What sort of rest(s) was in use when your buddy tried to bore sight it? Is it likely that whatever he was using was solid enough to get a decent bore sight done?
This is a good point. He normally uses his Caldwell stand but his .22 was mounted on it in the 50 lane. I think he used one of the club's plastic weighted things - looks like a chunky barbell. I am sure it's nowhere near as secure as an actual stand. At any rate, in a couple of weeks we will have another run at this with better equipment in tow.
Just wanted to update my own thread with (thankfully) a positive outcome. Turns out the problem was the factory scope mounting, which is funny because originally I had assumed that if it is done by the factory, it must be done right.
A couple of weeks ago, on the advice of many here, I de-installed the scope/rings and base. Particularly with the rings, the gap wasn't even on both sides - one side was really tightened down where the top and bottom halves were touching. The other side had a large gap. This really surprised me because I always thought if it was done from the factory, it would have been done right.
I took everything apart and mounted the rings and scope the way I have done my other ones. Bore sighted it at home at around 30-40 feet in a hallway.
I took it to my club today, and just in case, a buddy brought me a long full sized brown paper roll which I covered the whole target backstop. Then I put on my normal targets on top of that, figuring even if I don't hit paper on my targets, I will at least hopefully hit the full sized brown paper somewhere and then can figure out what was wrong. I was at the shortest distance, 25 yards, which I know is overkill for a .308, but recall that neither myself nor my buddy hit paper last time.
Turns out I didn't need to much else adjustment wise. My first shot was not only on paper, but it was centered windage wise, just about 7 inches high. I was jumping for joy. Was going to do an elevation adjustment but would be taking it out to the 100 yard next time, so I left it and shot another 19 rounds. The grouping was pretty close - centered, but high.
So it turns out the problem was with the factory scope install and the rings. Lesson learned - never accept or assume that the factory installed on rifle / factory bore sighted ones will get you on paper. Almost better to just take off the scope and rings every time and do it yourself.
A couple of weeks ago, on the advice of many here, I de-installed the scope/rings and base. Particularly with the rings, the gap wasn't even on both sides - one side was really tightened down where the top and bottom halves were touching. The other side had a large gap. This really surprised me because I always thought if it was done from the factory, it would have been done right.
I took everything apart and mounted the rings and scope the way I have done my other ones. Bore sighted it at home at around 30-40 feet in a hallway.
I took it to my club today, and just in case, a buddy brought me a long full sized brown paper roll which I covered the whole target backstop. Then I put on my normal targets on top of that, figuring even if I don't hit paper on my targets, I will at least hopefully hit the full sized brown paper somewhere and then can figure out what was wrong. I was at the shortest distance, 25 yards, which I know is overkill for a .308, but recall that neither myself nor my buddy hit paper last time.
Turns out I didn't need to much else adjustment wise. My first shot was not only on paper, but it was centered windage wise, just about 7 inches high. I was jumping for joy. Was going to do an elevation adjustment but would be taking it out to the 100 yard next time, so I left it and shot another 19 rounds. The grouping was pretty close - centered, but high.
So it turns out the problem was with the factory scope install and the rings. Lesson learned - never accept or assume that the factory installed on rifle / factory bore sighted ones will get you on paper. Almost better to just take off the scope and rings every time and do it yourself.
- Location
- Western Manitoba
iron cat has that correct - I do not have luxury of an actual "range" - is "out-in-the-boonies" stuff with my portables - so the short range is like 25 paces or so - for scope sighting, for me, windage is first - then usually need it to be "on" or a bit low at that 25 paces - still likely to be high at 100 yards - that I do measure with a laser, from the shooting table front. Almost all my hunting rifles are "sighted in" about 3" high at 100 yards. Might be different needs for others.
- Location
- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
If you want it done right you have to do it yourself.
